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Australian Citizen - died USA
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 01:08 BST (UK) »
I have an Australian Citizen who died in USA in 1958.

I have found his burial in the Springvale Cemetery (Victoria).

 I presume a death record would have been issued in the USA.
Would there also be a record for this death recorded in Australia.

Help would be appreciated.

Sarra

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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 October 15 01:38 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Have you asked the Cemetery to confirm that it is a burial?  If so, perhaps they can provide you with the contact details for the funeral directors who may be able to provide details for your ancestor.   

Each state/territory in Australia has its own parliament, and I am not familiar with Victoria's legislation so I cannot give you a definitive answer re a death registration.  I can however confirm that in New South Wales that the funeral directors lodge the registrations directly to NSW BDM.   I can also recall that Queensland BDM issued death certs for members of the Defence Forces who Fell while serving overseas in both WWI and WWII. 

I am interested in learning of the outcome of your enquiry.   

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 October 15 01:50 BST (UK) »
Hi sarra,
I know I am not quite answering your question  here, but would just like to mention it is not unusual for a memorial for a deceased person to be at one cemetery when the death of the person occurred  somewhere else entirely. This of course is not the same as a burial.

It often happens when a close family member is interred, extended family is mentioned on a plaque or headstone.

Another thing to remember is that the repatriation of "entire" remains to Australia would be a costly exercise. Ashes from cremation of course, are a simpler matter.

Sue
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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 October 15 06:15 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Have you asked the Cemetery to confirm that it is a burial?  If so, perhaps they can provide you with the contact details for the funeral directors who may be able to provide details for your ancestor.   

I am interested in learning of the outcome of your enquiry.   

Cheers,  JM
Hi JM,
Have not contacted the Cemetery as yet - will do that tomorrow. Not sure how forthcoming the funeral directors will be.

Will post back when I have any information.

Thank you..

Sarra


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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 October 15 06:25 BST (UK) »
I would expect the funeral directors to be able to confirm details about the deceased that you already know .....  including for example his nok or last address .... You should likely already know this, but it would help you to confirm that you definitely have the 'right' person.

Cheers,  JM

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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 October 15 06:58 BST (UK) »
Hi sarra,
I know I am not quite answering your question  here, but would just like to mention it is not unusual for a memorial for a deceased person to be at one cemetery when the death of the person occurred  somewhere else entirely. This of course is not the same as a burial.

It often happens when a close family member is interred, extended family is mentioned on a plaque or headstone.

Another thing to remember is that the repatriation of "entire" remains to Australia would be a costly exercise. Ashes from cremation of course, are a simpler matter.

Sue
Sue,
 I understand what you are saying I have come across something similar before.

I just checked the information I got from the Springvale Cemetery website.  The person who died 1958 USA was cremated. I can see now it's likely his ashes are interred in the grave of the person who died in 1993 (his ex-wife).  The information on the website lists this as a burial (1993).
Hopefully the Springvale Cemetery can give me the details for both of these.

Thanks for your input.

Sarra



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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 October 15 07:11 BST (UK) »
I would expect the funeral directors to be able to confirm details about the deceased that you already know .....  including for example his nok or last address .... You should likely already know this, but it would help you to confirm that you definitely have the 'right' person.

Cheers,  JM
JM,
The only time I contacted a funeral director asking for information I never got a reply.
I'm sure I have the correct person, I have done my research.

Sarra

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 October 15 07:16 BST (UK) »
I have always found funeral directors to be very helpful,  I still write snail mails to funeral directors and I always include a stamped self addressed envelope for their reply.   

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Australian Citizen - died USA
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 October 15 04:03 BST (UK) »
I have always found funeral directors to be very helpful,  I still write snail mails to funeral directors and I always include a stamped self addressed envelope for their reply.   

Cheers,  JM
Thanks JM,
Hopefully if I have to contact one, they well be forthcoming with my request for information.

Cheers....Sarra