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Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« on: Saturday 17 October 15 16:47 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find my grandfather's birth details. 
Would some kind soul please look in the parish register for Bromely to give me the birth details of Arthur GRAY in Vol. 2A Page 347 1873?  Especially to solve a discrepancy between what he always said his birthday was and the only listing that I can find.  He always said he was born on 2nd, September 1874 in Shoreham, but the only record I can find is 1873 1Q (March) 1873 (in FindMyPast).  Could it be that one date might be his birth and the other date his baptized date?  A digital copy of this entry would also be appreciated and can be emailed to me via Removed
Many thanks for any help with this problem.
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 October 15 16:53 BST (UK) »
Hi

We cannot look at birth registrations without buying them from the GRO.  Prior to the late 1870's not all births were registered so it is quite likely that your grandfathers was not.  :-\

Do you have him on the census anywhere.  Who is named as his father on his marriage certificate.

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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 October 15 16:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian

There is no way of seeing the original birth certifcates with the GRO references you have quoted ( Vol. 2A Page 347 1873) unless you purchase the original birth certificates which cost £9.25 direct from the GRO at www.gro.gov.uk

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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 October 15 17:00 BST (UK) »
Is he Arthur C and Arthur Christopher Grey on the 1901 and 1911 censuses?
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 October 15 19:22 BST (UK) »
Yes that is him.   I was originally asking for someone to look at the parish record.  I presume this is different than the GRO record.
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 October 15 21:20 BST (UK) »
The details you posted come from the General Register Office, the official government organisation responsible for the recording of births, marriages and deaths. Civil registration started in 1837.

Prior to this date, the church was responsible for recording baptisms (not births), marriages and burials (not deaths).

The 2 sets of data do not match exactly.

Events after 1837 at the parish of Shoreham should be recorded under Sevenoaks registration district

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/sevenoaks.html

I can't see the parish registers for Shoreham online anywhere.
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 October 15 22:52 BST (UK) »
The Bromley registration district covered/covers a wide area with many churches. I only have the baptismal registers for St George, Beckenham, which have:

Arthur (no middle name) Gray, son of George (wood engraver) and Caroline, born 12-Dec-1872, baptised 4-May-1873, residence Beckenham

which would fit a March quarter 1873 registration.
Researching Penge, Anerley, (incuding the Crystal Palace) and neighbouring parts of Beckenham, currently in London (Bromley), formerly Surrey and/or Kent.

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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 October 15 23:20 BST (UK) »
If he said that he was born Shoreham, Kent I don't think that would come under the Bromley registration district. I think it would have been Sevenoaks, so perhaps that is where you need to look.

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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 October 15 23:32 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to Rosie, Dawn, Chris,Groom, for the quick reply.
So reading between the lines I tale it that this FindMyPast entry is not him.
And it looks like I need to look for "Sevenoaks" area.
I also note that the it looks like some (all?) the Shoreham Parish Records are missing.
So thanks to all for steering me in the right direction.