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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 18 October 15 14:33 BST (UK) »
Possible for Edward & Ann in 1871 tho birthplaces for some are different they are in the right place
Rhosymedre

Edward Edwards 40 born Rhosymedre
Ann 44 born Chirk
Ann 14 born Bilston Staffs
Margaret 10 born Bloxwich Staffs

Oh and it also says "blind" for Margaret

and 1881 just in case it's the right family

Edward Edwards 56 born Rhosymedre
Ann 57 born Oswestry
Margaret 19 born Bloxwich
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 18 October 15 14:37 BST (UK) »
The only Thomas Evans marriage in 1894 was to Sarah Annie Morgan.

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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 18 October 15 14:46 BST (UK) »
Yes the 1894 Marriage is correct,shown as simply Margaret Edwards.The 1911 Census shows Margaret to be born c 1862 "Brockley" Staffordshire.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 18 October 15 14:54 BST (UK) »
1901 35, Church Street, Rhosymedre, Cefn, Wrexham, Denbighshire

Thomas   Evans   Head   Married   Male   54   1847   Stoker At Gas Works   Cefn, Denbighshire
Margaret Jane   Evans   Wife   Married   Female   39   1862   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire,
Robert Owen   Evans   Son   Single   Male   11   1890   -   Llangollen, Denbighshire,
John Henry   Evans   Son   Single   Male   5   1896   -   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire,
Maurice   Evans   Son   Single   Male   1   1900   -   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire,
George Edward   Rogers   Step Son   Single   Male   14   1887   Pit Labourer Above Ground   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire,


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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 18 October 15 15:08 BST (UK) »
There's a WW1 record for George Edward (which is how he appears in 1901 as stepson) Rogers mother Margaret Rogers - Royal Welsh Fusiliers but can't say if this is the same person  :-\

It seems as though he had two stints in the army, first for one year 1908-1909, his mother noted as Margaret Evans 35, Church Street, Rhosymedre, Cefn, Wrexham, Denbighshire, as per the 1901/1911 census where he is present.
Then 1915-1918, the record is sparse but he did not seem to be in the best of health. He was for a time in Manchester and in hospital in Sheffield towards the end of the war.

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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 18 October 15 15:22 BST (UK) »
The 1894 Marriage details may help with Margaret's earlier Census info.I think the George though whist very interesting is going  a bit too sideways for me as my main concern was the Maurice Evans born c 1900.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 18 October 15 16:05 BST (UK) »
I am of the opinion that Margaret was the mother of George and the father was Joseph, the marriage ended and they both remarried. I have later details for Joseph but I think that may be irrelevant.

I think some porkies might have been told along the way. The information below might help.

1861 - Leamore Green, Walsall, Staffordshire
Edward   Edwards   Head   Married   Male   37   1824   Puddler Forge   Denbighshire, Wales
Ann   Edwards   Wife   Married   Female   35   1826   -   Witton, Shropshire, England
Ann M   Edwards   Daughter   -   Female   4   1857   Scholar   Bilston, Staffordshire,

MARGARET JANE EDWARDS birth registered WALSALL, Staffordshire Q3/1861

1871 5, Church Street, Ruabon, Wrexham, Denbighshire
Edward   Edwards   Head   -   Male   40   1831   Puddler   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire, Wales
Ann   Edwards   Wife   -   Female   44   1827   -   Denbighshire, Wales
Ann   Edwards   Daughter   -   Female   14   1857   -   Bilston, Staffordshire
Margaret   Edwards   Daughter   -   Female   10   1861   Blind - Bloxwich. Staffordshire

1881 - 5, Church Street, Ruabon, Wrexham, Denbighshire
Edward   Edwards   Head   Married   Male   50   1831   (Iron) Puddler   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire, Wales
Ann   Edwards   Wife   Married   Female   57   1824   -   Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Margaret   Edwards   Daughter   Single   Female   19   1862   -   Bloxwich, Staffordshire
 
1891 Church Street, Ruabon, Wrexham, Denbighshire (all noted as English)
Edward   Edwards   Head   Married   Male   67   1824   Colliery Labourer   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire
Ann   Edwards   Wife   Married   Female   70   1821   -   Oswestry, Shropshire
Margaret   Rogers   Daughter   Married   Female   28   1863   Working On Colliery Bank   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire
George   Rogers   Grandson   Single   Male   5   1886   Scholar   Rhosymedre, Denbighshire


MARGARET ANNE EDWARDS, 20 father Edward, a forgeman to JOSEPH ROGERS, 22 Joseph. Married  28 May 1882 RUABON. Margaret Anne a spinster signed X

(maybe an error on middle name and place of birth)?

MARGARET JANE EDWARDS, spinster age 32, father Edward a labourer to THOMAS EVANS, widower age 47, father Robert deceased. Married 4 March 1895 BRYMBO
Margaret Jane signed X.

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Re: George Rogers-Born c 1887 Rhosymedre.
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 18 October 15 16:53 BST (UK) »
Yes thanks Colin,it does all look largely to be correct.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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