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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 October 15 15:53 BST (UK) »
Annie,
Thank you for your help, re full stops etc my teacher told me the same in school.

My mother Elizabeth born of Margaret Cullen,. details of Margaret as noted by conahy
year of birth of Elizabeth unknown, pure speculation, could have being 1931 even 1933 as no birth certificate exists in England for her. She used to tell us her documents went up in the blitz, a big white fib.
Her dad is supposed to be one Anthony Manzie or Maurie , another big one me thinks.
Elizabeth went to school in Tullow and was confirmed.
Margaret age 18, birth year 1905, Residence Cottage view Tullow, year 1923, date 25 Aug 1923, role prisoner, offence larceny by force, prison Mountjoy, county Dublin,father Andrew Cullen same address,
register title,
Mountjoy Prison General Register Female 1921- 1927 .

Andy

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 October 15 16:18 BST (UK) »
Hi There Andy

Do you have an area in England where your Mum was born ?

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 October 15 16:20 BST (UK) »
Have you gone through these Anthonys ?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gc7/

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 October 15 16:50 BST (UK) »
Presuming that Margaret and Anthony didn't marry then your Mum could have been registered as a Cullen.

That's going to be tricky as you're not even sure of a year but here are a few possibilites from around the timeline . . .

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVQ7-Q74W

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV3J-NVWW

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVQW-GH25

Tara

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 October 15 19:53 BST (UK) »
I have Margaret's Birth cert, purchased from GRO Dublin it matches what you have.
Also have copy of national census.
Have documentation on her parents, grand parents and all siblings all deceased.
some of her siblings children knew nothing of her, a bit of a black sheep?

My mother and one of her aunts considered themselves as sisters and that is what I thought for years.

Would just like to know what happened to her after 1923, did she emigrate etc , where is she buried?
Would also like to know where my mother was born, not England as told to me or she would be traceable.
Someday I might find out, if not sure I am no worse off.

I know there are Cullen trees online but while Margaret's siblings and parents are mentioned, no Margaret.
Thank you all for your time, help and replies very kind of you.

Something might pop up in the future.

Regards
Andy


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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 October 15 20:46 BST (UK) »
Mmmmm,

I wonder if Margaret reverted to her mother's maiden name of Butler to avoid detection?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 October 15 20:50 BST (UK) »
I meant to add that I was drawn to this thread as I am descended from Cullen's but there seems no link with mine.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 22 October 15 20:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Andy

Cases like this are usually too hard to work out as there would be a lot of untruths and subterfuge.

Sometimes the truth comes out and can be unsettling.

I suppose only Margaret knew the truth.

Anything else would be guesswork at best.

Tara

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Re: Margaret Cullen
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 22 October 15 21:41 BST (UK) »
My mother Elizabeth born of Margaret Cullen,. details of Margaret as noted by conahy
year of birth of Elizabeth unknown, pure speculation, could have being 1931 even 1933 as no birth certificate exists in England for her.
register title,
Mountjoy Prison General Register Female 1921- 1927 .

Is there a way you can find out the release date from prison?

Is it possible you need to allow for your mother Elizabeth to have been born prior to when she said she was born/thought she was born?

I wonder if she was actually born in the Prison?

Annie

ADDED....Do you recall any mention of an area in England mentioned at anytime?

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"