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Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« on: Thursday 22 October 15 18:51 BST (UK) »
Looking for any information on Elizabeth James born Pontrhydfendigaid 1876 daughter of Robert James Blacksmith who died prior to 1908 when she married George Bayes in Kensington. Does not appear on any censuses prior to 1911 when she is married and living in Grovesend near Pontardulais . Quite a mystery. Regards

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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 October 15 19:00 BST (UK) »
Did you get her fathers name from her marriage cert?  If you can't find her on any census from 1881-1901 have you considered she may have been illegit and made up a fathers name when she married?
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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 October 15 19:07 BST (UK) »
Hi their is a Lizzy James but born 1886 with Father Robert James occ Blacksmith in Pontyrhydfendigaid 1891?
Census Ref RG12/4564/64/18
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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 October 15 19:15 BST (UK) »
I think you need to take a look at the 1911 image re: number of years married
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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 October 15 19:21 BST (UK) »
George Rodney Bayes married 1908 - you are looking at a 1911 image for George Robert Bayes but his details tie in with Rodney

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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 October 15 22:04 BST (UK) »
I do think the info on the marriage certificate is wrong and George Robert Bayes is George Rodney.
The Lizzy James daughter of Robert James married another person not George Bayes and stayed in the Cardigan Area. This Robert James died 1915 the Robert on Certificate had died before 1908. I have  gone down this line,spent a week in the Aberyswyth Library even visited/took pictures Robert James grave in Ponrhydyfendigaid. Been trying to solve this since 2013. Nothing seems to make sense! Regards

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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 October 15 22:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Elizabeth has certainly been a problem for me as well, have you possibly checked out the Elizabeth Morris aged 4 shown as Grandaughter with a Margaret Morris in 1881, oddly enough on next page to Robert James occ Blacksmith?
Census ref RG11/5452/77/24
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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Yes been down this road as well. Cannot find any further info. on Margaret Morris but will have another go. It is a good possibility!Regards

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Re: Elizabeth James Pontrhydfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, Margaret & Elizabeth have both been a problem for me post and pre in the case of Margaret, to possibly gain assistance from fellow RC's this is 1881 living on next page to a Robert James occ Blacksmith

Margaret Morris 55 single occ formerly Servant ( Domestic)
Elizabeth Morris 4 Grandaughter
Both born Pontrhydfendigaid
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