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Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« on: Sunday 25 October 15 11:31 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on Michael Kelly born about 1880. Married Mary Anne Sweeney in 1907. Murdered her in 1915 and sent to Mountjoy Prison leaving behind 5 children.

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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 October 15 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Not surre what sort of information you are looking for on Michael but does their marriage certificate not list his father's name and occupation? I can;t see the couple in the 1911 census in either Kilcock townland or D.E.D.- was that an earlier or later address?
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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 October 15 13:48 GMT (UK) »
There is an article about the murder in the Kildare Observer, his father died on the Thursday night before he appeared in court.
http://archive.irishnewsarchive.com/Olive/APA/KCL.Edu/#panel=home
Michael was in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers.

He had two sister in law's called Anne Sweeney.

I haven't read it all.

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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 October 15 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Had a chance to read through it.
Bits and pieces from it.
He served in France.
He was in Cork arriving home on the 11 Aug.
Her mother was Mary Sweeney one of the Anne Sweeney's was her sister, so she must have had a brother for the other Anne Sweeney to be a sister in law also.
His wife had a baby about 3 weeks before he came home.


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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 October 15 16:04 GMT (UK) »
In another article the Rural District Council for Celbridge sent a letter for mercy, saying his was weak minded and had attempted at an earlier time to commit suicide.

His death sentence was commuted to penal servitude for life.
he was a private in the 2nd Battn. RDF

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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 October 15 16:18 GMT (UK) »
One of the Anne Sweeney's lived at Courtown so this looks good for Mary's family in 1911.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Kilcock/Courtown_Road/540195/

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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 October 15 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Looks like them in 1901 but the occupation of the father doesn't quite fit
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Gallow/Ardrums_Great/1621905/

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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 October 15 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Pte M Kelly RDF 6589 is referenced here - LINK
as entitled to receive the Queen's South Africa Medal
This implies he served in SA from Oct 1899 to May 1902
so most likely won't be on an Irish or UK census

Reg#6589 is on his on his prision records
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Kelly in Kilcock around 1900's
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 October 15 17:42 GMT (UK) »
1.   Michael b. Jul 11 1907
2.   Patrick b. Nov 05 1908
3.   John b. Jun 26 1910
4.   Daniel b. Aug 20 1912
5.   Mary b. Apr 22 1914
LINK to civil birth references

Family at 17 Parsons Street, Maynooth in 1911 (address matches prison records) – LINK

They state that they are 5 years married which implies 1906 but I don't see a marriage record
Civil Record - link Celbridge 1907 Q3 V2 P425

If you have access to the marriage record - the father's names would help locate births etc.


edited to add
Looking at amendments to 1911 census I wonder was Patrick and/or Mary married twice?

There are baptisms in Summerhill for parents Patrick SWEENEY & Mary HEALY of
Mary May 22 1887
Catherine Sep 21 1889
and then for parents Patrick SWEENEY & Mary GAFFNEY of
Bridget Sep 04 1892
Annie Feb 24 1895
Alice Nov 13 1898

Marriage record Patrick Sweeney & Mary HEALEY in 1887
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder