Henry Woodward

[Barry Ponsford]

Does any one know the wife of Joseph...ie. Henry's mother?

[rosie99]

Joseph states he is married in both 1871 & 1881 but there is no wife with him. 

We need to find Henry with his parents in 1861. Henry's place of birth is varied -
1871 - Watford, Hertfordshire
1881 - Chertsey, Surrey
1891 - Abingdon, Berkshire
1901 - Kingston, Surrey

As Henry is not consistent with his place of birth the only one that I think comes close to where he originated is probably 1871, Watford as this information may have been supplied by his father. On the last census Henry does not appear to know where he was born. 

I wonder if Joseph was married twice.  Maybe there are Army records for him that would help

[Barry Ponsford]

Thanks for all your help, I wondered if any one knew who Joseph wife or when Henry was born as this will enable me to purchase a certificate if needed.

Barry

[lizdb]

Thanks for all your help, I wondered if any one knew who Joseph wife or when Henry was born

That is what we are trying to find!

As Joseph was as soldier he moved around a lot, he could well be abroad for some of the censuses. We know he was born in Spain.
When he is there, his wife for some reason doesn't appear to be with him.
Henry is unsure of his place of birth, so finding him in 1861 is proving difficult
Joseph does not seem to be on 1861 (maybe abroad? or maybe whole family abroad?)

So, it is not proving easy.

Army records may be worth looking for (try National Archives, but not necessarily on line) as has been suggested.
And, rather then finding all the facts then buying a cert - it may be a case of having to buy some certs in order to establish the facts! - we need a birth of a Henry Woodward with father Joseph , a soldier, and then it will give the mothers name.

[Eyesee]

Children of Henry and Martha

All Saints Kingston
1877 Apr 29, Henry Joseph, s/o Henry & Martha WOODWARD, Waterman Passage, General dealer, born Apr 7
1881 Jul 10, George Edward, s/o ditto, Pheasant Lane, General dealer, born Jun 11
1882 Dec 24, Margaret, d/o ditto, born Dec 2 or 12
1884 Sep 14, James Charles, s/o ditto, born Jul 31
1889 Jan 27, John Edward, s/o ditto, born 1888 Nov 10
1890 Dec 7, George Edward, s/o ditto, born Sep 22
1892 May 22, Joseph Thomas, s/o ditto, born Mar 17
1894 May 6, Mary Ann, d/o ditto, birth obscured
1895 Jul 8, Joseph, s/o ditto, birth obscured.

Kingston upon Thames burials
1899 Jun 24, Martha WOODWARD, age 38, from Kingston Union Workhouse
1882 Aug 24, George Edward, age 14mths, The Waterside
1895 Jul 16, Joseph, age 16days, Pheasant Lane

Can't find Henry in 1861 yet.

Ian C

[Barry Ponsford]

Thanks very much all..I have requested a birth certificate for Henry in & around Kingston...fingers crossed.

I did find out today that Joseph was indeed married twice, I have the second marriage to Amelia Hide on the 8th Oct 1880 in Kingston on the document it does say that Joseph was widower...so now on the look for 1st wife!

Regards

[Barry Ponsford]

...I have also found a William John Woodward, but have not been able to find a baptism record to confirm if he is a relation...