Chauveau immigrating from France 1800s

[danny_chev]

Hi
I'm trying to trace possible immigration to Britain of
Louis Nicholas Chauveau c. 1830-1860
Can anyone provide any information, advice or point me in the right direction?

Thanks
Dan

[KGarrad]

I don't think there any immigration records as such, but maybe you should be looking for Naturalisation Records?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/naturalisation-case-papers-1801-1871/

[jorose]

There are some early records (certificates of alien arrivals etc) but the information on them tends to be quite sparse.

Can you tell us more about your man?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=345474.0 if he's related to this line it seems that they were in the UK much earlier.

[danny_chev]

Hi Jorose, Yes it's the same man
Louis Nicholas Chauveau (Glassblower, Glass Globe maker, Paper Dyer)
born c. 1836 at unknown location
Lived in Clerkenwell in 1860s married to Jane Watkins
Their children are
Louis George b. 1860, Edward John b. 1865, Lucien Eugene b. 1867
and isn't on any census himself though wife and kids are

But....this doesn't seem to be the same Louis Nicholas Choveaux (other spellings)
born 1833 in St Johns Wood (whose father was also L N and had a son L N)
and who is well recorded in Census records from a young man as a clerk in the War Office
living throughout with wife Anne Clara Farrell
To add more confusion there appears to be a Louis Chauveau m. Jane Baalham around at the same time

[BumbleB]

Sorry Danny - you have omitted to mention the death entry you have in PARIS on 15 June 1867 of Lucien Eugene Chauveau, aged 2 months, born in London, son of Louis Nicholas Chauveau aged 31 and Jeanne Watkins, aged 31 his wife.  Lucien was born 22 April, and baptised 5 May 1867 at St Thomas, Charterhouse - son of Louis Nicholas (Glass Shade Wharehouseman) and Jane.

Edward John (baptised as Edward George) - 27 August 1865 at St Thomas, Charterhouse - son of Louis Nicholas and Jane Chauveau - Glass Globe Cutter.

[danny_chev]

Yes BumbleB that's correct - those documents are the ones that name Louis Nicholas and Jane together, but they are not shown on a census together

[BumbleB]

I know that we've not been able to find them on a census together - I was just thinking that this fact added to your reasons for believing that Louis Nicholas immigrated from France 

[danny_chev]

Yes, agreed although he must have been established in UK before that.
The first son Louis George was born in Knighton in 1860 and Edward John in London 1865

[jorose]

Okay, that gives us something more to go on actual French records.

The death of Lucien Eugene was in Paris 2e, and he died at the residence of his parents, rue de La Michodière 12.

http://www.geneaservice.com/ I think shows a possibility for the marriage in France - in the 1798-1860 reconstructed records (Paris civil records 1860 and before were destroyed in a fire) - a mention of a Jane Watkins from Knighton.  Without paying I cannot see more, but it looks to me if you look under Chauveau that there's an entry for a Louis Nicholas Chauveau, residence A????es, birthplace a bit cut off but might be 'Quarré-les-Tombes'.

I can't seem to find this on the Paris archives list of reconstructed records:
http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr/archives_etat_civil/avant_1860_fichiers_etat_civil_reconstitue/index.php


However, if I look up Quarré-les-Tombes on the Yonne archives site (http://archivesenligne.yonne-archives.fr/ ) I can find a Louis Nicolas Chauveau b. 22 August 1835.  He was the son of Louis Elisabeth Chauveau (aged 29) and wife Pierrette Boussard

Having a look around a few places like http://www.genealogie.com/ shows there were some possible siblings in Paris.  As an example, I tracked down one, Marie Louise Chauveau, who married in Paris, 17e, 19 December 1874   (never know if these links will work, but http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gdw/  and page 17)

She was born Quarres-les-Tombs, 28 Jan 1843, the daughter of Louis Chauveau, died at Asnieres, Seine, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asni%C3%A8res-sur-Seine ) 7 Feb 1862, and Pierette Boussard, his widow, residing place de Marche St Honore 28, present and consenting.  The names of three children, born before the marriage, are listed (legitimised by said marriage).  A brother of Marie, Eugene Francois, was a witness.

Now Asnieres is an interesting place, because it looks to me like the residence written on that index card for Louis Nicolas Chauveau's marriage, and one reason for a marriage being in these records but not on the Paris archives list is that it actually took place outside Paris, in one of the areas that would now be considered a suburb.

But actually the records will be not in Paris, but in the archives for Haut-Seine:
http://archives.hauts-de-seine.fr/archives/rechercher/archives-en-ligne/

Sure enough, if you look at the indexes, there's a marriage for them there in 1858.
Go to 1858 marriages and they're on page 17 (ordering is a bit mucked up in these)
13 March 1858
Louis Nicolas Chauveau, employee, resident in this commune route d'Argenteuil, minor, born Quarre-les-Tombs 22 August 1835, son of Louis Elisabeth Chauveau, labourer, and Pierette Boussard.
Jane Watkins, maid (femme de chambre), resident in this commune rue de Courbevoie, born Knighton, Radnor, England, 30 September 1832, major daughter of George Watkins, carpenter, resident Knighton, and Jeanne his wife, deceased.  (a bunch more legal stuff over the page, witnesses who all seem to be friends of Louis, not relatives, and everyone's signatures).