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Rug Chapel, Corwen
« on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:05 GMT (UK) »
I recently posted requesting help with Griffiths/Roberts wedding.  With kind help, have found it to be the Corwen Parish Church.  On the Genuki cite, it seems to be described as a rug chapel.  Yet further down the list, there is another Rug Chapel with that as its name.  I have found the Rug Chapel on a Google search with lovely photos. 
Could it be that the Rug Chapel was the Parish Church? 

It is a peculiar name and at first, I wondered if it originated with a small group of parishioners actually gathering in someone's home on a rug....probably silly idea. 
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Monmothshire:  HOUSE, THOMAS, EDWARDS
Somerset:  HOUSE
Norfolk:  SIMPSON, THOMPSON, GRAPES, SPOONER, LOWNE, HOOKS, FOX
Suffolk:  CADE
Essex:  UNDERWOOD, CADE, DARBY
London & Middlesex:  THOMPSON, COCKRAM, CADE, BUTT, BANNER, MIDDLETON, NORRIS, DUNN
Wiltshire:  BUTT, HOUSE, GILES
Leicestershire:   GREENWAY
Denbeighshire & Shropshire:  EDWARDS, POSTLE, ROBERTS, HUMPHREYS, MORRIS
Lancashire:  BANNER, COZENS

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Re: Rhug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:10 GMT (UK) »
The local spelling, in Welsh language presumably,   is Rhug Chapel.  It is a CADW  historic monument.  If you are not too far away, its worth a visit to the area.

The welsh language does not have 26 letters in its alphabet.

Some sounds in the Welsh language comprise two letters, for example  Ll   or Dd  and Rh  as in Rhyl  or Rhianon.
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich

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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:14 GMT (UK) »
private chapel visit cadw.gov.wales/daysout/rugchapel/?lang=en

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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:28 GMT (UK) »
...then what would RHUG mean?  Is it simply a place name?

Monmothshire:  HOUSE, THOMAS, EDWARDS
Somerset:  HOUSE
Norfolk:  SIMPSON, THOMPSON, GRAPES, SPOONER, LOWNE, HOOKS, FOX
Suffolk:  CADE
Essex:  UNDERWOOD, CADE, DARBY
London & Middlesex:  THOMPSON, COCKRAM, CADE, BUTT, BANNER, MIDDLETON, NORRIS, DUNN
Wiltshire:  BUTT, HOUSE, GILES
Leicestershire:   GREENWAY
Denbeighshire & Shropshire:  EDWARDS, POSTLE, ROBERTS, HUMPHREYS, MORRIS
Lancashire:  BANNER, COZENS


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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi in connection with your other thread and this one, the Vicar Morgan Hughes aged 58 occ Clergyman Not born in county at Vicarage, Corwen, so would assume church close by?
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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Did you check out "St Mael and St Sulien" (Sulien is Welsh "Julian)?

From the Welshnewspaper "Y Llan" Jun 1913

Bishopric/Diocese of Llanelwy
Festival of Music, Edeyrnion Deanery

"The above festival was held in the Church of St Mael and St Sulien (Julian), that is to say the Parish Church of Corwen ....."

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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 November 15 23:56 GMT (UK) »
In answer to Stormybay, Rhug is indeed 'simply a place-name', and has no connection to the English 'rug'. I have not come across any explanation of its origin.

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Re: Rug Chapel, Corwen
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 November 15 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Once again, thank you to all who have helped.  The map is illuminating as well as the bit on Genuki about the churches.  For a wee town of 2000 people in 1851, there sure were a lot of chapels and churches.  The strong minded Welsh choosing such a variety of places of worship...mostly splinterings of non-conformists. 
It is still not clear to me if the Corwen Parish Church was a building in the town - perhaps shown as St Sulien's Church on the Genuki map- with meetings there in the mornings in Welsh and meetings at the Rug Chapel, known to be a private chapel, where there were meetings in the afternoons in English.
Fascinating.  One had to be a God-fearing citizen, I imagine.  I am sure that everyone knew everyone else's business as well. 
I really wish I could talk to this 3x gt grandmother to get her view of life in the mid 1800's. 
 
Monmothshire:  HOUSE, THOMAS, EDWARDS
Somerset:  HOUSE
Norfolk:  SIMPSON, THOMPSON, GRAPES, SPOONER, LOWNE, HOOKS, FOX
Suffolk:  CADE
Essex:  UNDERWOOD, CADE, DARBY
London & Middlesex:  THOMPSON, COCKRAM, CADE, BUTT, BANNER, MIDDLETON, NORRIS, DUNN
Wiltshire:  BUTT, HOUSE, GILES
Leicestershire:   GREENWAY
Denbeighshire & Shropshire:  EDWARDS, POSTLE, ROBERTS, HUMPHREYS, MORRIS
Lancashire:  BANNER, COZENS