Ridley b1800 St.Pancras or St Marylebone. What would you do?

[lizdb]

Does he ever use a middle name? At marriage, christening of children, etc etc.

If not, of the three christened in Marylebone, the plain John in 1801 (from LilyM's post with the three possibles) fits the bill the best, both from the point of view of not having a middle name, and also date wise.

[donaldridley70]

Middle name....unfortunately ,no, Liz. I wish he was an Ebenezer or such. Easier to find.

As I said to Dawn I find myself fixated on 'born 1800 Pancras (as indicated on all Census). However strange things happen and John in 1801 could be he.

I will follow Dawns suggestion of him in Essex.
As said, Census indicates born Pancras. His marriage appears to be in S.W. Hackney and the record of their first child Baptism (another John of course) shows him in a place called Kingsland. From that point on he lived in West Ham, Stratford Essex, or is that Stratford, West Ham. So there is a sort of link.

I can certainly say I have more 'dead ends' than dead relatives.Ha,ha.

Thank you Liz for your thoughts.

Don

[StevieSteve]

Kingsland equates to modern Dalston, in case you weren't aware - north of Shoreditch, I'd describe it.

Well, that and "dump"

[ShaunJ]

The census evidence suggests that he was born sometime between April 1799 and April 1800 (but is he the 82 year old boot maker in the West Ham Union in 1881? that would suggest 1798-1799). Baptism could of course be at a much later date.

[Lily M]

Having looked at the Public Trees, I see that no-one has named the parents of John Ridley.  So, they probably haven't found a baptism for him.   I really don't see why he would put Pancras if he had been born in Essex.

Back to the witness on John Ridley's marriage record.  (I think the name is Hannah Parry)  I can't find the marriage you refer to, which has John Ridley as a witness.  Please can you let us know what Hannah's maiden name was.  Just incase it leads somewhere.

[dawnsh]

I really don't see why he would put Pancras if he had been born in Essex.

It's possible if he had been born in one area and the family moved to another in his very early childhood years so he doesn't remember his actual place of birth.

[donaldridley70]

Reply to Dawn. No, I favor Pancras or somewhere near but you'd suggested some Public Tree's showed  a John Ridley and Mary Shaw in Essex and as he was in Essex from 1841 on I thought it was a possible he came from or had early links there.

Reply to Lily. Attached is the Parish record of Johns 1832 marriage. Top of page is marriage of Susannah PUNTER to a Richard PARRY. John was their witness. Tried to follow them and I seem to recall they lived on Goswell St? Anyway the then Susannah Parry became Johns witness.

Reply to Shaun. Yes that is John at West Ham Union and yes he's shown as 82. The 1841 Census he's 40. 1851 he's maybe 54?. 1861 he's 61 and 1871 he's 71. So somewhere 'tween 1797 and 1800 I guess.

Reply to Steve. Dalston? I've got enough districts to deal with....but thank you for input.

I think I've covered all.

Again thanks to all for thoughts

Don

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[Lily M]

Thank you for posting the marriage details.   Unfortunately, as you've already found, that family doesn't seem to lead to anything useful.

[donaldridley70]

Yep. I guess I'll keep plugging away at 'John's ' although I'm not sure I could prove they're the one. However it's interesting looking back in time and wondering what their lives were like. I don't suppose the Govt of the day nagged them about 'sugar content' but they may have complained about the Govt.

Thanks anyway for trying.

Don