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MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« on: Monday 02 November 15 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Frederick Charles MANNES married Ann SWAYSLAND in Sydney in 1895

In the newspaper reports about his death in 1912 he is said to be 49 years old, to have lived in NSW for 31 about years, and to be a native of London. Family stories say he was actually from Germany, went to the UK and from there to Australia

The NSW BDM death index for 1912 records that his parents were Frederick and Christina but this may not be correct

I'm looking for help to find:
his date of arrival in Australia and port of arrival (from death reports this could be about 1881)
his birth date and location (from death reports this could be abt 1863)

When he died he was working as a baker. Family stories say that he made european-style cakes.

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 November 15 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
  Wonder if this is your  fellow?:

Naturalisation Index

MANNESS   Charles   Germany   1 Nov 1901   


http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx


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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 November 15 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Frederick Charles MANNES married Ann SWAYSLAND in Sydney in 1895
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The NSW BDM death index for 1912 records that his parents were Frederick and Christina but this may not be correct

What information is recorded on that 1895 marriage cert?   I would expect it to include the information that Frederick provided to the clergy, including his
a) age
b) place of birth
c) father's full name and occupation
d) mother's name including maiden name
e) his own occupation
f) his own status (bachelor/widower/divorcee)
g) his usual address

NSW BDM has the marriage indexed as
Frederick C MANNES and Annie SWAYSLAND,
registered Sydney, ceremony on 22 October 1895.  #6159

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 November 15 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Sands Sydney Directory 1905
Frederick MANNES,  Thomas St Chatswood.

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory/sands-search

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 November 15 13:32 GMT (UK) »
I cannot see any Frederick Mannes/Manness in the census results, however.
In the 1871 Census there is a Frederick CHARLES Manns born 1865 London. He is the son of Frederick and Emma Manns.

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 November 15 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Although he died in late 1912 the 1913 Sydney Directory had Frederick. C. Mannes listed at Harris St, east side, Parramatta.

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 November 15 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
  Wonder if this is your  fellow?:

Naturalisation Index

MANNESS   Charles   Germany   1 Nov 1901   


http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx


Leanne

That man was quite a bit older, aged 64 in 1901 and had lived in NSW for 33 years.

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 November 15 14:30 GMT (UK) »

Frederick was assaulted in Wagga Wagga in 1893.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/112605162?searchTerm=

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Re: MANNES Frederick Charles c 1863 - 1912
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 November 15 14:39 GMT (UK) »


Frederick was assaulted a year earlier also in Wagga.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/101864171?searchTerm=

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