john murphy castle gardens kilkenny ireland

[clath]

Hello I'm  posting this message because i am hoping that someone may have information on a John Murphy from Castle Gardens Kilkenny Ireland.
I have only just discovered  him through his brother James Murphy  probate and will ,dated 1908. It read that John was from Kilkenny

It seems to me that John Murphy remained  in Ireland while his family immigrated to Melbourne  Australia possibly in
1850. Don't  know whether he had family or when he died.

The family consisted of Patrick Murphy,his wife  Margaret Murphy nee O'Keefe  born 1803 castle gardens Kilkenny Ireland died Melbourne  1887. Children James ,Mary, Bridget, Annie ,Ellen and of cause John who remained in Ireland
IT seems that i am the only person researching this family.
Thanks Claire

[Sinann]

Just see if I'm reading this correctly.
James Murphy died in Australia naming a brother John in Ireland in his will.

An approx date of the birth for James and his siblings would help.
Were they all born in Ireland?

[myluck!]

Patrick MURPHY of Grague m Margaret KEEF of Castlegarden on Feb 29 1824 - LINK to NLI Church register

Baptised children were (records on same link for first four, www.nli.ie)
Oct 04 1826 Bridget
Jul 05 1829 Mary
Jun 04 1832 John
Jun 09 1834 James
Sep 19 1837 Anty (which I think maybe Anastatia which could be Annie)
Apr 02 1841 Ellen

Assuming John was still alive at the 1901 census and in Ireland
This is a link to the John MURPHYs listed as born in Kilkenny aged 70 +/- 5 years - LINK

As this is a common name he may prove difficult to find

[clath]

Patrick MURPHY of Grague m Margaret KEEF of Castlegarden on Feb 29 1824 - LINK to NLI Church register

Baptised children were (records on same link for first four, www.nli.ie)
Oct 04 1826 Bridget
Jul 05 1829 Mary
Jun 04 1832 John
Jun 09 1834 James
Sep 19 1837 Anty (which I think maybe Anastatia which could be Annie)
Apr 02 1841 Ellen

Assuming John was still alive at the 1901 census and in Ireland
This is a link to the John MURPHYs listed as born in Kilkenny aged 70 +/- 5 years - LINK

As this is a common name he may prove difficult to find

Thanks myluck for your help. Yes sounds close to my Murphys. This information will be a break through for me.

My Margaret Murphy  was born 1803 castle gardens Kilkenny. died 19.5.1887 Melbourne .Australia

Patrick ,husband don't  know.

Children.Bridget Murphy . Married Charles Mac duff. b 1826 castle gardens Kilkenny Ireland.  Died 1882 Brisbane Queensland Australia

now for Mary Murphy  unmarried have her born 1836 castle gardens Kilkenny Ireland.  Died 1.7.1887  Melbourne. aged 40

John Murphy .Kilkenny Ireland

James MURPHY born 1835 Castlegardens  kilkenny Ireland, not married. Died 22.3.1908 Melbourne Vic

Annie Murphy .born 1841 castle gardens kilkenny ireland, Married William Crowe. Died 26.6.1886. Epping vic

Ellen Murphy. my g grandmother. Born 1841 or 42. Castle gardens kilkenny Ireland. Married  a John Knox. Died 1917 Melbourne vic.

[clath]

Just see if I'm reading this correctly.
James Murphy died in Australia naming a brother John in Ireland in his will.

An approx date of the birth for James and his siblings would help.
Were they all born in Ireland?

Yes sinann. James died in Australia 22.3.1908

 John named in  james Will. John murphy seems to have still been residing  in castle gardens kilkenny that year.

the other childrens birth dates are in the post i sent to my luck. They were all born in ireland

[conahy calling]

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Kilfane/Castlegarden/531740/

 census links  John Murphy  in Castlegarden.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Kilfane/Castlegarden/1455142/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Kilfane/Castlegarden/531737/



http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1032    Thomastown RC Parish registers
Using dates given by Myluck
Baptism Ellen Murphy Apr 2nd 1841 link (left hand side)
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631965#page/40/mode/1up   
Baptism Anty Sept 19th  1837    (6th down on right hand side)
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631965#page/21/mode/1up



Earlier threads
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=705342.new#new

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=704759.msg5477061#msg5477061

[myluck!]

Hi conahy calling

Just a comment on the John Murphy on the 1901 & 1911 census
He seems too young to be a brother
The census returns => he was born c 1867 rather than c1830s/1840s to be a sibling

[conahy calling]

Yes I agree with you Myluck
I posted them as they are the only John Murphys I could find in Castlegarden.

[clath]

thanks for all your help. it all makes interesting reading and much to ponder over