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Re: Francis Robert Bartrum
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 November 15 05:42 GMT (UK) »
These BARTRAMs arrived in July 1858 on the ship LINCOLNSHIRE.
Francis and Jemima both aged 40y
Francis aged 18 and Sarah aged 16.

A marriage for Francis BARTRAM and Jemima ASKEW was in the Dec Q 1837.
Shoreditch, Vol 2 Page 366.

Jemima and Phoebe the same person??

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Re: Francis Robert Bartrum
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 November 15 06:56 GMT (UK) »
London, England Marriages and Banns shows the following marriage:

13 November, 1837 at St Mary Haggerstone, Middlesex,
Francis BARTRAM, minor, bachelor, cabman;  Father: Thomas BARTRAM, greengrocer
Jemima ASKEW, minor, spinster; Father John ASKEW, wheeler
Both give their place of residence as Mill row
Witnesses: John YEOMANS?, Mary ASKEW

Francis' (the one whose marriage I've just shown) baptism:
1818 at St Leonard, Shoreditch
Francis Robert BARTRAM, son of Thomas and Elizabeth of Kingsland Rd. 
Father's occupation: greengrocer
Birthdate: 5 August 1818.

Baptism of the son of Francis and Jemima:
5 July 1840, at St Mary Haggerstone, Middlesex,
Francis Robert BARTRAM, son of Francis Robert and Phoebe Jemima of Mill Row.
Father's occ: smith

So yes, Phoebe and Jemima are the same person

Baptism of their daughter:
26 September, 1842 at St Leonard, Shoreditch
Sarah Elizabeth BARTRAM, daughter of Francis Robert and Phoebe Jemima, of 3 Mill Place, Mill Row
Father's occ: smith

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Re: Francis Robert Bartrum
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 November 15 07:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1841 England Census
Eleanor Place, Tower Hamlets, Parish of St Leonard, Shoreditch, Middlesex
Francis, Bartram, 20, Smith
Phoebe Bartram, 20,
Francis Bartram, 11 mo.
Elizabeth Bartram, 65

All persons were born in Middlesex.

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Re: Francis Robert Bartrum
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 November 15 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Another child for Francis and Phoebe Jemima:

This one is difficult to read:
3 Nov 1844, at St Mary Haggerston
Phoebe, daughter of Francis Robert and Phoebe Jemima, of Wi??? Gardens
I cannot make out the occupation of Francis - could be bricklayer.

FreeBMD has this death:
Phebe BARTRAM, Mar qr 1847, reg Shoreditch

I wonder what happened to Sarah Elizabeth, b 1842 (baptism shown above) who came to Australia with her parents and brother as shown by Essie.

Judith
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Re: Francis Robert Bartrum
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 November 15 07:32 GMT (UK) »
A Sarah Elizabeth BARTRAM married John Price JONES in 1862. Reg #2511
First child born at Hotham.

Essie