John Henry Ransome, where did he come from?

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Interesting - is this a picture of the wife Mary Ransome who became Mary Coburn

"Name:      Coburn, Mary, prev Ransome, d 15th October 1905
Biographical History:      Wife of John Ransome, was a nurse in Masterton in the 1880s until her death. In 1892 she married Wilhelm Johan Kobrow, aka William John Coburn/Cobourn"

http://masterton.spydus.co.nz/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/OPAC/ARCENQ?ENTRY=Ransome&ENTRY_NAME=BS&ENTRY_TYPE=K&SEARCH_FORM=%2Fcgi-bin%2Fspydus.exe%2FMSGTRN%2FOPAC%2FBSEARCH_PIC%3FHOMEPRMS%3DPICQUICKPARAMS&QRY=ARCTYP%3A+GRPW&QRYTEXT=Picture+Wairarapa&NRECS=20&GQ=Ransome

http://paperspast.natlib.go
vt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=WDT19061015.2.13&srpos=2&e=-------10-WDT-1----0Coburn--

John William Coburn outlived her and died in 1934?
He left a probate (will) behind
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23109738

He applied for Naturalisation in 1931, this record might clear up where he came from
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24212907


Sorry nothing about John Henry Ransome

THANK YOU!!!!. I looked for a naturilization and a will for Coburn and couldn't find either, kicking myself for that!

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A death certificate would help

Cheers, Sam

Hi Sam,

Welcome to the board ....  We usually suggest getting a Printout instead of a Certificate, as it is a copy of the original document, is cheaper and can be emailed to you.

Cheers
KHP

AH thats right, Cheers!

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I'm wondering if this is him

19 years old, from Surrey, Hy J Ransome, single man, labourer travelling on the 'Waimea' in 1876, Assisted Immigration

This man is born the same year as yours 1857!

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22John%20Henry%22~%20%2Bsurname%3ARansome~%20%2Brecord_country%3A%22New%20Zealand%22

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I'm wondering if this is him

19 years old, from Surrey, Hy J Ransome, single man, labourer travelling on the 'Waimea' in 1876

This man is born the same year as yours 1857!

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22John%20Henry%22~%20%2Bsurname%3ARansome~%20%2Brecord_country%3A%22New%20Zealand%22

  Now I found this as well haha, glad someone else thinks it could be him, the Henry John was throwing me off a little bit.

I researched this a little but I couldn't find any births/census records of a John Henry Ransome (or similar)from Surrey, I know Surrey is near/in London though so would he have possibly just put down where he was staying prior to immigrating?

I've been lucky to mainly have families coming out here so far which has been VERY helpful, single labourers are a bit tougher.

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I can seem to see a birth or census for this man in Surrey either.  Yes, I see, very close to London.

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Hi Sam,

His birth and possibly census records might have used a spelling variant of the name RANSOME.

Congratulations on your discoveries so far. The Hy J RANSOME on the Waimea certainly looks like him!

Good find, Whiteout7.

Spades

[Beg Clonrode...]

John William Coburn left a probate (will) behind

Hello Sam...

Welcome to Rootschat

The probate file for William John COBURN has already been digitised by FamilySearch.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-909-49491-86523-19?cc=1865481

Not that helpful from a family history point of view.

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Family Search have re-jigged their website so if the above link doesn't work go here...

http://tinyurl.com/ponmwz9

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Wellington Court
Probate records 1934 P54011/34-P54070/34
Image 408 of 760

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Can I strongly second Minnie's suggestion of purchasing a printout of the 1881 RANSOURE/MARSH marriage.

And while you're at it also ask BDM NZ to compare the spelling of the surname on the BDM NZ website to the original marriage register. Tell them you're pretty sure it's meant to be RANSOME.

A printout costs $20.40 and can be ordered and delivered online.

As the information was supplied by the bride and groom it's as accurate as you're going to get.

More importantly it will save a lot of time and effort and speculation.

Regards
Beg

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John William Coburn left a probate (will) behind

Hello Sam...

Welcome to Rootschat

The probate file for William John COBURN has already been digitised by FamilySearch.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-909-49491-86523-19?cc=1865481

Not that helpful from a family history point of view.

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Family Search have re-jigged their website so if the above link doesn't work go here...

http://tinyurl.com/ponmwz9

...then

Wellington Court
Probate records 1934 P54011/34-P54070/34
Image 408 of 760

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Can I strongly second Minnie's suggestion of purchasing a printout of the 1881 RANSOURE/MARSH marriage.

And while you're at it also ask BDM NZ to compare the spelling of the surname on the BDM NZ website to the original marriage register. Tell them you're pretty sure it's meant to be RANSOME.

A printout costs $20.40 and can be ordered and delivered online.

As the information was supplied by the bride and groom it's as accurate as you're going to get.

More importantly it will save a lot of time and effort and speculation.

Regards
Beg

Hey, thanks for that, shame it doesn't tell us any more would have liked to know more about the guy.

I'm going to do that now, not that they ever change them, my other Grandad tried to get his Grandmothers name corrected over a year ago and nothings been done.

 I suppose I'm going to have to, it'll be a 2 minute noodle week haha. Will it be an instantaneous email? Or will I have to wait some time for it to arrive?

Cheers, Sam.

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Hi Sam,

His birth and possibly census records might have used a spelling variant of the name RANSOME.

Congratulations on your discoveries so far. The Hy J RANSOME on the Waimea certainly looks like him!

Good find, Whiteout7.

Spades

Good point, I've looked for ranson/ransom/ransome but nothing