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Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« on: Thursday 12 November 15 04:23 GMT (UK) »
This is a general query for future reference on how/where to trace older Scottish records (18thC and earlier).
I'm a bit rusty and would appreciate some advice / reminders.

After checking BMDs, census records and MIs, where else can I check?  Online would be a bonus because I'm unable to get to the Mitchell or Edinburgh easily, if at all.
 
I've tried NRS online catalogue and just simply Google searches. 

I'm thinking possibly Poor Law records, Kirk Sessions and Sasines and perhaps trade diectories? 

Anything else I should be thinking about?


Specifically at the moment I'm looking at a FORREST family for a friend (no relation to my Forrest line that I've found).

I've traced this particular line back to Samuel Forrest of Bothwell (1814-1895).
I have his BMDs and census records (excl 1861)

I know his parents were William Forrest and Jean/Jane Law and have 7 of his siblings born 1799 - 1811 (Samuel was the youngest b1814).  All born "Bothwell" (Uddingston / Bellshill / Bothwellhaugh occur in the various census records).

There I'm stuck.  The parents, William Forrest and Jean Law seem to have died prior to 1841 so I have no census info to go on.

I can't definitively identify their deaths or locate MIs.

BDM's for the children give no clues to the parents other than the fact that William was an inn keeper / change keeper / publican "in Uddingston" at the time of each of his childrens birth.

Thanks for reading.

Dave



(added "Kirk Sessions")
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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 November 15 10:04 GMT (UK) »
All scottish records are avaiable on line for a small fee.

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 November 15 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Colin.
I've exhausted that.  I'm beyond what help the OPR's can give me.
Not all records are online on SP.  Mainly BMDs. 
I think I need to be looking at records such as Poor Law and Sasines in the Mitchell or Edinburgh.
Wondering whether folk had suggestions beyond that.

Dave
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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 November 15 12:30 GMT (UK) »
There is a Will & Testament for a William Forrest in 1815 at Uddingston, on ScotlandsPeople, any help?


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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 November 15 13:07 GMT (UK) »
I have no idea how I missed that!  I definitely recall looking for a will.  Strong chance that's him.  I'll get a copy of both records and hopefiully there will be something in there that will help me confirm it's him.

Thanks so much for pointing it out, even if it's not the right person.

Dave

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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 November 15 13:54 GMT (UK) »
That was the correct William.   :)
There is enough info within the docs for me to be sure it's the correct person.
It gives me his date of death and also confirms he was residing in Uddingston.  No specific address but until now I only had info indicating that was his place of business.

Regretably there is nothing, such as his age at death, that helps me take the line further back with any certaintly.

Still, very useful to have.

Thanks again Pari Passu for pointing it out.

I'm still left with the question, where do I go from here.....
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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 November 15 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Daval,

I noted you have an interest in "other" Forrest's.

The earlist I have for now is....

George Forrest b c 1816 = Isabella Wilson b c 1818 married 1838 Carmichael, Lanark

Children all born Carluke:

George c 1841 = Elizabeth Bertram Logan b 1848 Lanark married 1873 High St, Lanark
Alexander & John 1845 (Twins)
John 1847

I have a line running from George c 1841 & Elizabeth B Logan down to present day if you are interested?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 November 15 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Dave, "Poor Law" didn't exist before 1845. Up until then, poor relief was dispensed by the church.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Suggestion please - I'm stuck in late 18th C
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 November 15 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Cheers Lodger, I realised that after I typed my initial post, hence my amending it to include Kirk Session records.  I've a bad habit of referring to all poor relief as "Poor Law".  I knew what I meant.  :D 
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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)