Molyneux of Salford

[lancsann]

Thaks Trish

What was confusing me was that on all the children's baptism and marriages he is described as a carter (porter in 1899). On all except Robert's they are living at 33 Oldfield Road.

Presumably the address was turned into a newsagent's in 1890/91 after William's birth or Ellen was actually the newsagent.

[salt]

For anyone searching for Robert Molyneux's marriage you will find him listed as Robert MULLAIS, married to Ellen Bradshaw in 1868.

[trish1120]

Well done salt, wow another variation of Surname.

Full entry for others searching in the future;
Marriage:
27 Dec 1868 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
Robert Mullais , 21, Carter, Bachelor, 36 Hope St.
Ellen Bradshaw, 20, Winder, Spinster, 36 Hope St.
Fathers:
William Mullais, Bleacher
Thomas Bradshaw, Deceased, Railway Guard
Witnesses: James Bradshaw; Ann Bradshaw

Trish

[salt]

On reflection I need to order this marriage cert and go through all the occurrences of Robert Molyneux in all his guises.  Lancashire parish Clerks on line have the marriage details Trish cites of Robert Mullais and Ellen Bradshaw (mother of Mary Ann Frances Molyneux.) I believe their records are transcribed from the original parish records which suggests that Robert's name is Mullais, or that is what the minister recorded. Mullais is also the name given in the GRO indexes.

There is also a birth record for a Robert Mullus in Salford in 1845,(  Q1. 20. 898) which fits.

[lancsann]

If you have access to Ancestry the image of the marriage certificate of Robert Mullais is online and that is how the name is written and Robert had signed

[Mabel Bagshawe]

If you have access to Ancestry the image of the marriage certificate of Robert Mullais is online and that is how the name is written and Robert had signed

Except it is transcribed Mullars - just to make life more confusing!

And this I think is the baptism

Robert Mullers
Baptism  23 Mar 1845, Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father  William Mullers, porter
Mother    Ann Mullers

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1851 has yet another variation

106 King St, Manchester, parish of St Anns

William Mullass    31 - horse porter b Chorley
Ann Mullass    34 - b Chorley
Robert Mullass    6 - b Manchester
William Brown    22 - brother in law b Chorley

HO107, 2229, 749, 19


1861 - 19 Canning St, Hulme

Wm Mullass    38 - bleach works porter b Leatham
Mary Mullass    38 - b Hollings...
Wm Mullass    2 - b Manchester
Robt Mullass    15 - hooker, cloth works, b Manchester
M E Mullass    4 - daughter, scholar
L Green    19

RG 9, 2901, 39, 24

[Mabel Bagshawe]

The daughter's baptism - definitely looks like a second wife

Mary Ellen Mullis
Birth    8 Feb 1857
Baptism    1 Apr 1857, Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father    William Mullis - porter
Mother       Mary Mullis

[Mabel Bagshawe]

William Mullis - minor, labourer, no father named
Ann Brown - full age, father william Brown, bleacher

I can't decipher the surnames of the witnesses.
Both residents of Botany

Marriage    16 Jul 1838, Chorley, St George

they baptise a son James on 25 Dec 1838