Can't find William

[olly73]

Looking for My ggreat grandad William Colbeck born in Ireland in 1816 thats all know he is then in 1841 census living in Dewsbury Yorkshire and Married think his mum and dad came back to England before the Potato Famine Help appreciated may have been southern Ireland not sure Thanks Olly73

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not a common name...


http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ghb/

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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ghc/

[KGarrad]

From Church records on Irishgenealogy.ie, there are a few possibilities?

Baptism, 1st September 1822, at St Mary's Pro Cathedral, Dublin
William Calbeck son of Francis and Anne

Baptism, 29th January 1815, at St Peter, Dublin
William Eaton Caldbeck son of Eaton and Isabella

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=730635.0
Co Laois thread

Numerous variations of surname - see r/h side on following link

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/

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http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-LAOIS/2009-12/1260044663

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Hi Olly 73
Checking national sources first to keep the search as wide as possible

1796  Flaxgrowers of ireland  Calbeck Colbeck
Dublin none
Kildare none
Kilkenny none
Laois none
Limerick none
Meath none

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie a young man b 1816 unlikely to be named here but his father could be a William !
Calbeck     recheck original for first name   Clondalkin   Dublin   1834
Calbeck   William   Whitechurh   Whitechurch   Dublin   1832
Calbeck   Wm      Killadooley   Donaghmore   Limerick   1825
Calbeck   A      Killeen      Kilmanagh   Kilkenny   1825
Calbeck   Samuel   Glebe      Kilmanagh   Kilkenny   1825
Calbeck   Anne      Rathmacan   Tullaroan   Kilkenny   1833
Calbeck   William   Clondalkin   Rathbeggan   Meath      nd
Colbeck none


http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/  His family might still be listed here
Colbeck   Joseph      Jane Mount       Cork   St. Marys Shandon   Cork 1852
Colbeck   Joseph      Patrick Street      Holy Trinity   Cork 1852
Calbeck   George   Tullyroe      Abbeyleix   Laois 1850 (Queens Co)
there are apparently 13 households why have I one{irish times ancestor}
Calbeck   Samuel   Main Street       Naas   Naas   Kildare 1853
Colbeck   William   Killeen         Kilmanagh   Kilkenny 1849
Colbeck   Samuel   Banse Glebe      Kilmanagh   Kilkenny 1849
Colbeck   John      Killeen         Kilmanagh   Kilkenny 1849
Calbeck Tipperary


Griffiths Valuation spelling variations see http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/
Calbeck   3 see above
Caldbeck   16 need to be identified in Griffiths
Colbeck   5 need to be identified in Griffiths
Coleback   3 see above

recorded variations in other records eg General registry, Dublin church records , Dublin Freeman etc    see http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/
Calback
Caldback
Caldbark
Caldbecks
Caldbick
Callback
Callbeck
Callbock
Colback
Coldbeck
Colebeck
 I am continuing to search for you

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Hi Olly73
Checking again the English census 1841 The William that matches your information is at
Old bar house Batley,  Dewsbury Yorkshire
William b 1816 birthplace left blank m [>1832] Mary XXXX b1816 yorkshire occupation Coal Miner
children
Amelia b 1831 Yorkshire
Sarah b  1836  Yorkshire
Abraham b 1839  Yorkshire {the original has an I signifying born Ireland}

also in Havercroft Batley
William and Elizabeth Colbeck b 1786 Yorkshire with
Isaac b 1821
William Colbeck b 1829,
Jannet b 1831,
Elizabeth 1834

also in Spa Hill Batley are
William b 1806 and Hanna b 1816 Colbeck occupation Clothier
Samuel b 1830
William b 1833
Armatage b 1835
Ann 5months b 1841

also in Havercroft Batley  bk5 folio 10 page 12 piece number 1267
John Colbeck  b 1786  m Martha b 1786
children
Eli b 1821
Abel b 1826
Martha b 1826

also in Havercroft Batley   I cant work out if this is a duplicate or something gettting muddled by enumerator of census
John Colbeck  b 1787  cloth weaver Martha b 1785
Abel b 1824 son
Abraham b 1827  grandson

I also was given by Genes Reunited cross references to 4 matches for John Colbeck in members family trees . you would need to join to contact these members
John    Colbeck    1786   Batley West Yorkshir...    No    Martin   
John    Colbeck    1786   Batley, West Yorkshi...    No    Andy   
John    Colbeck    1786             ...    No    Susan   
John    Colbeck    1786   Batley,Yorkshire,,En...    No    Darren
John    Colbeck    1787   Batley West Yorkshir...    No    John   
John    Colbeck    1787   Batley West Yorkshir...    No    Neil


there are other Colbeck in Batley are Yorkshire born I found no reference to ireland

To sum up your William  Are there Parish records for Batley  Could his parents have been in the armed forces and stationed in Ireland where he was born .  I tried
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/british-army-service-records-1760-1915?lastname=colbeck&_page=1
WO97 chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913  I found
John    Colbeck 1791 Huddersfield Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry - 32nd & 46th Foot 25 years later is 1816, If he signed up there its about 7 miles from Batley
there is also a James Colbeck 1877 Dewsbury Imperial Yeomanry WO128 and a  Tom Colbeck 1887 Dewsbury    9095
But I also found John Colbeck Peninsular Medal Roll 1793-1814
in Collections from Great Britain Year 1793-1814 Regiment 32nd Foot



Try to identify his parents in Batley

Ancestry says your William Colbeck b Ireland 1816 is in the Lawrence Family tree, although I contribute replies to Ancestry I am not a member, so cant look that up for you.

freebmds  Dewsbury Deaths etc
Deaths Jun 1844   (>99%)
COLBECK    William        Dewsbury    22   1
Deaths Dec 1849   (>99%)
Colbeck    William        Dewsbury    22   6
Deaths Sep 1859   (>99%)
COLBECK    William        Dewsbury    9b   272    
Deaths Mar 1860   (>99%)
Deaths Sep 1862   (>99%)
Colbeck    William        Dewsbury    9b   294   
Colbeck    William        Dewsbury    9b   265   
Deaths Jun 1865   (>99%)
Colbeck    William        Dewsbury    9b   343

I end up fairly convinced that John b 1786 or 1787 is Williams father.  To get more evidence you need to find out if the 32 Foot came back to ireland say about for a couple of years possibly reformed as the 46th Foot and more about Johns wife martha and where married etc. and perhaps contacting the tree holders if you are not one of them

So good luck onwards and hoping i am not leading you down a red herring

[BallyaltikilliganG]

a quick look at the 32Foot on http://www.nam.ac.uk/research/famous-units/32nd-cornwall-light-infantry-regiment-foot shows their in and out of ireland ends 1815 but doesnt say where in ireland  however it does on http://web.archive.org/web/20071221053831/http://www.regiments.org/deploy/uk/reg-inf/032-1.htm
Over to you