Birmingham Marriage 1917 look up?

[NDRFT]

Hi everyone

I am looking for the marriage of Alfred SHEWARD to Alice BENNETT 1917 Q4 v6d p385 Birmingham.
I wonder if anyone has access to the PR's and can tell me the names of both parties fathers please? and also Alfred's occupation?

Thanks for taking a read

NDRFT

[rosie99]

The GRO index has her as Alice M Barrett.  Ancestry has some Birmingham marriages for this period though I can't see this one.  Freebmd seems to think that the reference is incorrect for the Birmingham registration district 

[*Sandra*]

Anc tree shows Alice May Barrett born 15 Oct 1896 in Birmingham, Warwickshire  passed away June 1980 in  Birmingham, West Midlands. Father Thomas Barrett 1862 in  Coleraine, Londonderry, Northern Ireland  passed away Jun 1925 Birmingham North, Warwickshire. Mother Mary Ann Elcocks born 28 Mar 1857 in  Dudley Port, Warwickshire passed away Jul-Aug-Sep 1940 in  Birmingham.

Thomas seems to go under the surname Wilson in 1911 and Elcock in 1901

A marriage shows for those parents Thomas Barrett (bachelor - occupation frame maker)  and Mary Ann Elcocks (spinster) Birmingham, St Thomas, Warwickshire 14 June 1890
Fathers William Barrett (coachman) and William Elcocks (brewer)  In the presence of Edwin Barrett and Elcocks

Sandra

[Ladyhawk]

I am looking for the marriage of Alfred SHEWARD to Alice BENNETT 1917 Q4 v6d p385 Birmingham.

I wonder if anyone has access to the PR's and can tell me the names of both parties fathers please?
and also Alfred's occupation?

Alfred Sheward
Document Year:   1921
Regimental Number:   50
Number of Images:   7
Form Title:   Emergency Service Attestation

Born 26/6/1892 parents British
Not sure of occupation looks like Navel Rati..g 
Served Royal Navy K8022
Spouse Mary Alice Barrett
married St Asaphs Latimer St 15 Sept 1917
address 6 Prospect Place, Irving St., Birmingham
Child I M (female) born 19th March 1921 Birmingham
- see FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ for full name also another child 1925

possible birth entry FreeBMD

Sep 1892 Birmingham 6d 58
Alfred SHEWARD   

he's a patient in 1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQ7-LGV

Midlands , England ER 1832 - 1955
1918/1919 Iriving Street
Alfred Sheward, 7 Court 42, K3022 Sto.. (Stoker) R.N. HMS "Caroline"

[NDRFT]

Rosie / Sandra

Thank you both very much.

Since my first post I think I agree Rosie, I was wrong and she is a Barrett not a Bennett - thanks Rosie.

I have a George Barrett B 1917 Q2 v11a p403 Newport Mon, his mother was a Barrett.

I also have an Alfred Sheward who married an Alice Barrett Q4 1917 6d 385 Birmingham although as you say Rosie - the Birmingham page sequence is out for that area, at that time, in that year.

I can see an Alice Barrett aged 6 in the 1901 census at home with her parents in Birmingham - John and Lavinia. I wonder if Alice  got pregnant in 1917 was sent home to her paternal grandparents etc to have a child before coming back to Birmingham and marrying Alfred Sheward.

The son George then disappears but later in the 30's after absconding from home when joining the Army under age he says his name was George Burns and his parents were Shewards from Birmingham.

Does this make sense? I think it is certificate time.

Nigel
 

[NDRFT]

Oh Ladyhawk - awesome I have to re read your post I have just down loaded his military service record and his service nos was the same when he joined the RN in 1910

[BumbleB]

Ermmmm!  There is no marriage at St Asaph, Birmingham on 15 September 1917 between Alfred Sheward and Alice Barrett.  The only marriage taking place on that date at St Asaph is between James Stanley Thorpe and Jessie Mary Palfrey.    Unless, of course, there is another church in Birmingham of the same name. 

I believe the reason for the note on FreeBMD relating to page numbers is because the marriage is entered in December quarter 1917.  The page number would refer to a marriage in September quarter 1917, which would be correct for a marriage taking place on 15 September 1917. 

[rosie99]

I believe the reason for the note on FreeBMD relating to page numbers is because the marriage is entered in December quarter 1917.  The page number would refer to a marriage in September quarter 1917, which would be correct for a marriage taking place on 15 September 1917.

Thank you   
I believe that you are right having compared the online marriage register with the GRO index pages.  Freebmd have transcribed the entry correctly from the information they have been given by the GRO but it does not tally with the parish register.

Rosie 

[crimea1854]

I note from his service record that Alfred was on HMS Caroline. As an aside she was present at the Battle of Jutland, is the last surviving ship of WW1, and is currently being restored in Belfast with the aid of Lottery funding.

http://www.nmrn.org.uk/exhibitions-projects/hms-caroline

Martin