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Re: WWI Service Medal 1914-1920 more info please?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 22 November 15 22:19 GMT (UK) »
No. There is no way of searching a whole family at once.

You have to search each individually. Sometimes boys enlisted together in same regiment which can help once you find one. But later in the war this happened less often.

At beginning of war when local friends and brothers went to volunteer together into Pals Battalions you do often see them with similar or consecutive numbers which can be a clue when looking at medal cards with all the brothers names. Not foolproof though as could be coincidence or a cousin.
They then trained and fought together. Unfortunately that meant they often died together too. One reason for change later from the Pals system.

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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: WWI Service Medal 1914-1920 more info please?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 22 November 15 22:36 GMT (UK) »
From that site on conscription.

"The Military Service Act of January 1916 specified that single men between the ages of 18 and 41 were liable to be called-up for military service unless they were widowed with children or ministers of religion. Conscription started on 2nd March 1916. The act was extended to married men on 25th May 1916. The law went through several changes before the war's end with the age limit eventually being raised to 51."

Thomas at 44 would not have been called up straight away but may have volunteered. By end if war he would be 48 so was just inside age range.

If he enlisted he may not have been sent abroad in which case there would be no medals and so no medal card.


McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: WWI Service Medal 1914-1920 more info please?
« Reply #29 on: Monday 23 November 15 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Ah..You mean Reserved Occupation. No there is no list.

In early years of war men were volunteers and conscription only came in in 1916.
http://spartacus-educational.com/FWWconscription.htm

You generally use the term "enlisted" as in signed up. You will also see  "Attested" to mean when they fill in the "Attestation Sheet" signing up to serve.


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No i meant a list of people who asked to be excused from serving in WW1 and the reason why - sorry i thought i'd be clear in saying that- a small % of that list was objectors, it wasn't a list of just objectors...

I finally found it - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/middlesex-military-service-appeal-tribunal-1916-1918 hopefully that explains well enough?
Those who tried to get out of serving, and some examples showing the reasons they gave for not serving, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/middlesex-military-service-appeal-tribunal-1916-1918
I'm sure it was one of the chaps on the World Naval Ships Forums that suggested it, but i've not kept a note.
Primarily Startup, Dickson & Cranston, with branches in baggs, Cheetham, Keir, Fosyth, Marshall & Logan. Regions mainly Scotland & the borders & Greater London area.
Many Naval ancestors and connections to Canada & American.

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Re: WWI Service Medal 1914-1920 more info please?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 23 November 15 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Yes I see now what you were saying.

No, there is no complete list of these tribunals

There is an explanation in the Middlesex link you posted

".... these records are for the Middlesex Appeal Tribunal and the Central Appeal Tribunal only. Most tribunal records were destroyed after the war by government order.

Some incomplete sets of records relating to local tribunals are held at local record offices. Search for ‘military service tribunals’ on our catalogue to find out what records are held elsewhere"

I don't have any Middlesex links so have never tried to search this. Might be worth putting some of your London names in though as parts of London were classed as Middlesex.

Interesting article all about them here
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29954113
It talks about some Cheshire ones. I might have a look myself.

Milly
McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk