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Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 19:55 GMT (UK) »
More on the HIRSCH s in Dunedin

Looking at the HIRSH name in Dunedin I typed on autopilot HIRSCH    I seem to have read and processed the name as "German Jewish" origin and then given it the spelling I would have expected.   See how I [we ?] make mistakes.  ???
On NZ BDM Marriage index
Marriage
1866/8968    Ellen Louisa    Hawkins    [married]    Gustav    Hirsch

on the Birth Index - contrary to Historic Dates rules
1984/111202 Hirsch    Elsie May   [parents]  Ellen Louisa  &   Gustav
My best guess is that the 1984 year is a keying error for 1874 [middle two digits having slipped up one]
The normal locking mechanism appears to kick in when I try to narrow the date.   I also tried to key in what I believe is the correct year (1874) but this didn't work either.
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BDM report
I have checked the birth record 1984/111202 and can confirm "1984" ... is correct.
... While registration usually happens at the same time as the event, in some cases - as with this birth - several years can elapse before registration takes place.
The reason for a later registration date could be:
1          The event was simply registered late     
2          The event was registered again after the initial registration as the information changed e.g. an adoption occurred, or a re-registration - this is usually if the parents married after the birth
3          It was registered as more information became available.
As a search of the database also searches on the date of event, these records are returned if they meet your search criteria and comply with the historical data criteria.


I have now narrowed the birth to 1 Aug 1899 which gives several years later registration or ammendment as, say 85 years , ... or maybe a lifetime !
Also means if the marriage and birth are the same [parents] then the birth occurred 33 years after the marriage
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Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
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Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: Toube MORRIS (nee ? PEERIE) married 1876 in ? Dunedin
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 21:01 GMT (UK) »
HIRSCH in Dunedin

Deaths

1923/8520   Hirsch    Ellen Louisa    80Y   
1926/4421   Hirsch    Gustav       86Y   

which questions the birth in 1899 of Elsie May HIRSCH

No death in NZ found for Elsie May HIRSCH

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Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone