Convict records for those transported to Australia

[Westy11]

James Taylor age 28

received aboard Justitia moored at Woolwich  28 Mar 1839
Convicted at Salford 25 Feb 1839

That leaves over four weeks between conviction and arrival on the hulk.

Transportation of prisoners was not always rapid in the first half of the 19th century and there probably would have been stops at other prisons on the way to Woolwich.  Any stops would have been recorded.

Very good point ScobieDrom & thank you

[dobfarm]

I've found another James Taylor occupation Baker his wife Mary Ann from Liverpool Lancashire in a baptism
 Flora McDonald Taylor daughter of of James & Mary Ann Taylor, baker of Key Street
bapt: 17 Apr 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
Baptisms 1835 - 1836, Page 380, Entry 3034

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St Mary Church Manchester

New Bailey st (Salford) continues as Bridge st after it crosses the river Irwell to Deansgate at St Mary's church on Mulberry st Manchester (about 1/4 mile apart)

[Westy11]

Dobfarm

To put it simply - you are a treasure!!! Thank you so much.  I have to go out again to pick up my grandson but will get back to the posts very soon....

Westy

[ScobieDrom]

I've found another James Taylor occupation Baker his wife Mary Ann from Liverpool Lancashire in a baptism
 Flora McDonald Taylor daughter of of James & Mary Ann Taylor, baker of Key Street
bapt: 17 Apr 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
Baptisms 1835 - 1836, Page 380, Entry 3034

Looked for Flora in the 1841 census without success.  This could be the reason; from FreeBMD:

Deaths Sep 1839, Taylor Flora, Manchester District, Volume 20, Page 538.

[dobfarm]

I've found another James Taylor occupation Baker his wife Mary Ann from Liverpool Lancashire in a baptism
 Flora McDonald Taylor daughter of of James & Mary Ann Taylor, baker of Key Street
bapt: 17 Apr 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
Baptisms 1835 - 1836, Page 380, Entry 3034

Looked for Flora in the 1841 census without success.  This could be the reason; from FreeBMD:

Deaths Sep 1839, Taylor Flora, Manchester District, Volume 20, Page 538.

(Speculation)  I'm wondering if Mary Ann Taylor (marriage date & maiden name unknown) died in child birth 1836 and then James remarried to Jane Dobson St Mary's Manchester

http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/

 TAYLOR Flora 1839  Market Street Manchester , registers held at Manchester Central
Library Archives

Market st  (Manchester) is continued from St Mary's gate  (road/street) off Brackfriers bridge next river bridge down from New Bailey bridge (Deansgate)


There was a series of burglary's around Dec 1838 and Jan 1839  in Aston under Lyne, Oldham and Manchester area by 3 thieves, a James Taylor being one of them. Again speculation, but could James Taylor have been bailed on the Rochdale theft in June 1838  and this Aston under Lyne James Taylor was the same person. The Aston under Lyne burglar James Taylor was put down as a roamer saying his wife and children were staving, was the reason for him turning to thieving being his first offence.

[Westy11]

Hello Dobby

Could well be as I have seen a record that noted James had offended previously.  I have tried to locate the family in the 1841 census without success not that that means they aren't there but probably more to do with skills....

Westy

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James's marriage register/certificate in Australia may give his fathers name or both parents

[Westy11]

Morning Dobby

No unfortunately his parents weren't given nor on his death certificate. 

I haven't been able to find the family in the census records, [which isn't to say they aren't there] & will try for the workhouse today.

Westy