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Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up? (corrected)
« on: Thursday 19 November 15 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Edward BRAN was the youngest son and 12th child of Cornelius William and Ann (nee AL(L)NER) of Lymington, Hants.  He was born abt 1834 according to the ages given in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 cenuses.  After that nothing.  He simply vanishes.

I've not found a marriage or death for him. I've searched newspapers, probate, migration lists, crew lists, electoral rolls, military records (various sites), Ancestry trees. I've tried open searches.

The only thing I am sure of is that he's dead!

The family were fishermen, mariners and smugglers mostly but not exclusively.


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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 November 15 10:50 GMT (UK) »
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The only thing I am sure of is that he's dead!

I've got one like that!

Will have a look for him - could be his death is registered with the wrong spelling but no doubt you have already checked for that  :-\

Deaths at sea?
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Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 November 15 10:57 GMT (UK) »
I found Edward on the 1841/51 censuses but his father is noted as William who was a widower in 1851.
In 1861 Edward is a labourer and unmarried. As you say nothing after, the only thing I can think of is that his name might have been registered/recorded incorrectly, such as below?

Edward Brant   Death Q3/1870
Volume 2C/ Page119   Basingstoke, Hampshire

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 November 15 11:03 GMT (UK) »
The age for that one is 0 per BMD index  :(
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 November 15 11:11 GMT (UK) »
A vague possible on the Isle of Wight in 1871 age 36 Colour Sgt.  Birthplace is down as Lewisham Kent so incorrect for yours but worth eliminating from our enquiries  8)
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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 November 15 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Oops missed the age, one more below.

EDWARD   BRYAN
Birth 1834   Age 37
Death Q1/1871   2C - 77
WINCHESTER   Hampshire

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 November 15 14:56 GMT (UK) »

I've got one like that!

Will have a look for him - could be his death is registered with the wrong spelling but no doubt you have already checked for that  :-\

Deaths at sea?

Glad I'm not the only one :)

I have checked those I know about: BRANN, BRAUN, BRAND, BRANT, but there are very likely some I've yet to come across.  Some could be mistranstricptions, some misunderstood depending on accent.

I think a death at sea was the most likely, or the sea had a wave (hand) in it ;)

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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 November 15 16:50 GMT (UK) »
I found Edward on the 1841/51 censuses but his father is noted as William who was a widower in 1851.
In 1861 Edward is a labourer and unmarried. As you say nothing after, the only thing I can think of is that his name might have been registered/recorded incorrectly, such as below?

Edward Brant   Death Q3/1870
Volume 2C/ Page119   Basingstoke, Hampshire


Yes, it should have been William :(  Cornelius was one of my BLACHFORDs. I've corrected my original post now.

William was a widower.  His wife, Ann, died in 1849.

In a way I'm pleased you couldn't find anything either.  It means I didn't miss anything - which is always possible.

A mistranscription/misspelling is possible.

Another option that occurred to me just now is that Edward may have been indulging in a family sideline, ie smuggling or poaching, and died either accidentally or otherwise.  Although the BRANs were well known in the Lymington area, Edward may not have been recognisable and his death recorded as UNKNOWN Male.  If that is the case, then I stand no chance of finding him.

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Re: Edward BRAN b abt 1834 - beamed up?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 November 15 17:10 GMT (UK) »
A vague possible on the Isle of Wight in 1871 age 36 Colour Sgt.  Birthplace is down as Lewisham Kent so incorrect for yours but worth eliminating from our enquiries  8)

I think the Colour Sgt can safely be eliminated :)

There were BRAN families on the IoW but I'm not sure at the moment how they fit in/connect.  I'm sure they do somehow.  Dan BRAN (he gets a mention in my last post in the George DYER or BRAN thread) used to sail from Lymington to Yarmouth.  If he did, others did too.