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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 November 15 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Barker, 38, wife of Edward barker, maltster died Bridge Street (Brown Jug not mentioned) on 17 December, just 4 days before Elizabeth Barker on the 21st.

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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #10 on: Friday 27 November 15 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the '61 Census, John Hughe's was Elizabeth's son in law. They occupied a separate address to Edward and Sarah + family.

I recall seeing something in 1857 about John Hughes, address Brown Jug, Bridge Street.

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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #11 on: Friday 27 November 15 13:35 GMT (UK) »
I have confirmed that Edward (b 1818) is the son of Edward proprietor of the Brown Jug and that Elizabeth was his mother.  Based on the fact that in 1861 Jnr was running a pub in Bridge Street I had reached the conclusion that he took over the family business ... your last post suggests not.  Solve one question and more just appear.  Thanks v much for your help.
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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #12 on: Friday 27 November 15 18:46 GMT (UK) »
From the '61 census "Jnr" was in the trade, but not necessarily running the Brown Jug. Why did you deduce he was running a pub '61?


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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 28 November 15 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Barker Jr could well have taken over the Brown Jug (still there by the way) but there were several others in Bridge St. I do not have the 1861 directory but in 1851 there was The British Flag (Isaac Cotterall), The Cheshire Cheese (Jas Locke), The Rising Sun (John Nicholas), The Eagle and Child (Wm Barlow), the Vine (Wm Brayford) and the Golden Ball (Francis Fieldhouse). Interestingly Edward Barker has two listings The Brown Jug 22 Bridge st and as Edward Barker under beerhouses (also 22 Bridge st) but there is also and Edward Barker listed under beerhouses at 127 Lower St. Which puts him right next door to The Queens Head (John Shufflebotham) at 125 Lower St
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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 16:22 GMT (UK) »
thanks both - I think I had been naïve to assume that the business would just go to the son.  Looks like Bridge Street would have been ripe for a pub crawl! The Brown Jug is still there so nice to make a connection with some part of the family
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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 16:54 GMT (UK) »
I'd started to check out John Hughes - son in law. As previously mentioned, he was recorded at the Brown Jug in 1857.
Your post has reminded me.

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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 February 16 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Ooooh, now there's a blast from the past! I used to walk past that pub on my way home from school. I even remember getting told off for jumping on the steps of the Alms Houses that used to be nearby.
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Re: Pub/address Newcastle under Lyme
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 December 18 15:52 GMT (UK) »
I am in possession of the complete title deeds to the Old Brown Jug, I have the original deeds from Edward Barker in 1822....