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Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« on: Saturday 28 November 15 11:24 GMT (UK) »
I have found Jean Baptiste Berland 47 on the 1851 census transcription on the Family Search site where it states he was born in France and was living in Jersey with a 23 year old English wife Mary.
I cannot find this entry on the Library Edition of Ancestry at my local library so am unsure if there is any other relevant information.

I do know that in 1857 the couple sailed from England to New Zealand with 2 children whose likely names were Prosper Guilliame Raine Berland and Jules Gabriel Montigny Bain Berland.
How do I find out if these children were born/baptised in Jersey between 1851 (census) & departure  for NZ in 1857?  The children are not named on shipping lists and as they were early settlers information can be erratic!

Did Jean Baptiste and Mary marry in Jersey?

You will probably gather I am floundering in a strange (for me) area ::) and  would be very grateful for any assistance.

TIA
Dale
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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 November 15 11:40 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast is showing a Jean B Berland, born 1804, living in St Helier?

Transcribed on Ancestry as Bresland?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 November 15 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Wow! That's a great start thank you! You wouldn't believe how much time the Librarian spent looking for it!
1804 birth is perfect for age 47 in 1851 and his age at death in NZ.
Thanks again.
Dale
HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe

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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 November 15 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Having found the entry on FindMyPast, I just looked for A Jean, born 1804, living in Jersey!
2nd on the list looked a good match! ;D

I looked at the Church Records Database on Jerripedia, but I couldn't find any Berland or Bresland baptisms/births?

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Jerripedia
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 November 15 13:00 GMT (UK) »
A quick look at the birth and marriage indexes next week when the Archive is open should give you the answers that you are looking for.
Leave it with me.

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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 November 15 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Sincerely appreciate your help! Especially as these old bones required a sleep during a warm south pacific night!

I have a suspicion that Mary's surname was Raine(e) Rain, Rein and that the Bain in Prosper's names may actually be Rain etc.

Our heritage library has been closed for earthquake strengthening but I'll check the Library again for Bresland- thank you both !
Dale
HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe

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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 December 15 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Disappointed to have to report that I could find no trace of this family in either the marriage, birth or baptism records. I even went through the B indexes searching marriages for any Jean Baptiste and births for any Prosper or Jules with zero results. Sorry.

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Re: Jean Baptiste BERLAND
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 December 15 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Kia Ora
Thank you so much for searching for me! It is very frustrating when dealing with such bare facts and I am  SO very grateful for the time you have spent.
Enjoy the holiday  season - I'll mention your name to Santa as he comes here first in the world! ;D
Regards
Dale
HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe