death record for Grace Roberts

[Rosezi]

I need help finding Grace Roberts (nee Thomas) death record. She was born 1820 in Liverpool, married Edwin Roberts, who I think also went by the name of Thomas Roberts. The last record I have for her is the 1871 census, living in Raymond street with husband and son John.

[DavidJP]

Hi Rosezi,

There are a couple of possibles on freebmd as follows:

Roberts, Grace; June Qtr 1904; Age 83; W Derby (West Derby) Registration district; Vol 8b Page 202.

Roberts, Grace; Sept Qtr 1901; Age 79; Liverpool Registration district; Volume 8b Page 47.

West Derby registration district covers some of the Liverpool area as well.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David

[garstonite]

Hi Rosezi,

There are a couple of possibles on freebmd as follows:

Roberts, Grace; June Qtr 1904; Age 83; W Derby (West Derby) Registration district; Vol 8b Page 202.

Roberts, Grace; Sept Qtr 1901; Age 79; Liverpool Registration district; Volume 8b Page 47.

West Derby registration district covers some of the Liverpool area as well.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David

purely by deduction
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk has the 1901 death as St Thomas ,Liverpool
St Thomas is on Pall Mall in Liverpool
Raymond Street is 9 streets away from St Thomas - so it would suggest the 1901 death - but I can't be certain - you would need the death cert
 

[CaroleW]

The last record I have for her is the 1871 census, living in Raymond street with husband and son John.

In 1871 husband is shown as Thomas and address is Tatlock St - not Raymond St.  Son John was aged 9yrs

Have you looked for husband/son in later censuses?

[Rosezi]

Many thanks for the help everyone..

I think it is the correct Grace Roberts living in Tatlock street on the 1871 census. They lived in Raymond street back in 1861, a few doors away from  her parents John and Emma Thomas  at no. 89 Raymond Street. Her husband Thomas was christened Edwin, taken from their marriage banns record in 1841.

[CaroleW]

They lived in Raymond street back in 1861, a few doors away from  her parents John and Emma Thomas  at no. 89 Raymond Street. Her husband Thomas was christened Edwin, taken from their marriage banns record in 1841.

John & Emma Thomas were aged 41 and 40 in 1861 so could not possibly be Grace's parents given Grace was born 1820

The marriage of Edwin Roberts and Grace Thomas was in 1840 at Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne so there cannot be a banns record in 1841

The Thomas & Grace Roberts in 1861 were childless

[CaroleW]

This is the 1851 census for Grace Roberts - shown as Robert

Ann Thomas 69 widow b Anglesea
Thomas son 42 unmarried ditto
Jane dtr 32  unmarried b Liverpool
Grace Roberts 29 dtr married b Liverpool
HO107 Piece 2178 Folio 469 Page 47

[CaroleW]

Son John was baptised 7.5.1861 at St Peters - address Raymond St parents Thomas & Grace

[CaroleW]

I have an uneasy feeling about several aspects of the info here

Marriage in 1840 - no children until 1861

Marries as Edwin but census entries show Thomas

There is a marriage on 18.9.1849 at St Nicholas between a widow Grace Roberts father John Thomas occ labourer and a Thomas Roberts (bachelor) occ mariner -  father Griffith Roberts coastguard

Address for both was Gascoyne St

On the 1840 marriage cert - Grace Thomas's father was John occ labourer  and her address was Gascoyne St