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land and property registration
« on: Tuesday 01 December 15 11:00 GMT (UK) »
does anyone know when registration started in scotland and where the records are kept.
Scotlandorkney flett bell, strickland laird traillcalqahoun.
Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
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Edinburgh/Aberdeen:portsea marsh,brownwhittcomb and others. to numerous to mentionweymouth frank.  Laidlaw,Brown,Dean//Charles/Hall/Slight/Johnston belgium loquet

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Re: land and property registration
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 11:19 GMT (UK) »
According to Mr Wiki, 1617, with the Register of Sasines. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_registration

Scotland is one of the first countries in the world to have a system of land registration. Land registration commenced in Scotland with the creation of the "Register of Sasines" by the Registration Act 1617.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registers_of_Scotland  .... Register of Title 
Land Registration (Scotland) Act 1979  ......
Registers of Scotland is headed by the Keeper of the Registers of Scotland
With a staff of over 1,000 people located in offices in Edinburgh and Glasgow, the Keeper is assisted by the operations director and accountable officer.

Hope this helps.

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Re: land and property registration
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 11:56 GMT (UK) »
The Register of Sasines a register of deeds and is description based and the registered deed gave title. The Land Register is a register of titles, is map based & has been replacing the RoS as majm says since 1979 county by county. The last counties to have be on the Land Register were the rural northern ones in 2003.

Copies of Sasine deeds can be obtained for £19.20 each & Land Titles [online at least] for £3.60. Online access is not public.

Each property has a numbered RoS search sheet within a particular county and owners & addresses appear on property or person indexes to enable that search sheet to be identified. Search sheets cost £3.60 [again online but restricted access]. There are search firms who will do this but for a hefty fee.

Up to 1979 all titles were in the RoS. Transfer of titles to the Land Register was triggered by a sale [for a consideration ie money] so transfers within trusts or for no consideration [eg on inheritance] stay on the RoS. However there is much political will in Scotland to have the majority of the landmass registered in the Land Register so changes are afoot. It is proposed that the Keeper will be able to induce registration

Both are based at [1] Meadowbank House, 153 London Road Edinburgh EH8 7AU [2] Hanover House, 24 Douglas Street Glasgow G2 7NQ

I worked in this field for many years & have sent a pm.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: land and property registration
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Copies of Sasine deeds can be obtained for £19.20 each & Land Titles [online at least] for £3.60. Online access is not public.

Think carefully before you order a copy of a Sasine for £19.20. It may well be cheaper to hire a searcher to locate and find the one(s) you are interested in, especially if you want several.

The older Sasines have been digitised and can be viewed in the Historical Search Room in General Register House, Edinburgh. When you find the one you are interested in, you can print off a copy at a cost of 50p per page. Most Sasines are a couple of pages long, so they cost only a pound or two. At the moment there is no option to save them as digital images.

Often you don't need to view the complete Sasine. There are Abridgments, organised annually, and also available on screen in the HSR in GRH, if the search system is behaving (it doesn't always!). The Abridgments generally, but not always, give the names of the individuals mentioned in the full document, their relationships to one another, and a description of the property involved.


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Yes, good point; I was speaking as one who cannot easily get to Edinburgh... £19.20 paid to the RoS is a lot cheaper for me than a return train fare  ;). I would already have the details [parties' names, dates, partial description] from the property search sheet. After the late 1930s, of course, there may have been a plan recorded with the Sasine deed.

The online access I mentioned is to the RoS Registers Direct for the property & person indexes [free to download] and property search sheets & Land Titles [£3.60 to download]. For someone not in easy reach of Edinburgh it has been the only way.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 March 16 06:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Josey,  how are you doing! 😄😄

A very comfortable and scenic trip on National Express though, Senior's discount, not a bad price, certainly better than the train!

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