Author Topic: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874  (Read 2052 times)

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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 04 February 18 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Gosh that is interesting about the papers. I guess so many things we wont find out. X

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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #28 on: Monday 05 February 18 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Just a question, assuming your side remained in the family, do you have any old family photos that may have been passed down? Be lovely to see if there are any family resemblances!

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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #29 on: Monday 05 February 18 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Yes I do have two that I can send to you via your email address.  You will need to pm (private message) me as email addresses are not allowed on post.  Click on the letter under your name to send me a message.

One photo is of James, his wife Carrie and their son Sidney.  The other is of James' cycle shop that he owned in North Finchley.

I shall have to wait until my son gets home as the printer is set for scanning to his computer.  Not being very technically minded I don't know how to set the printer to my computer.
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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #30 on: Monday 05 February 18 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Gilly

I now have the photos scanned and ready to send to you.  If you send me a pm with your email address I can send them to you.
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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Still struggling to get a firm fix on Florence.  The 1939 gives a birth date of 28th November 1875.  She was a patient in the North Middlesex Hospital and said to be senile so I wonder just how accurate that date is, the year particularly.

For the 1911 Florence has an age of 37 and a birth year of 1874.  As her birthday would have been in November that would give a birth year of 1873.  Her place of birth is given as Colwall, Herefordshire.

James was born in February 1863 so was already 48 by the 1911.

What are the chances of Florence making out she was older than she actually was?

Will the 1921 census reveal anything?  She will be a widow by then as James died in 1920.

I just cannot seem to find any birth registration for Florence either as Florence Emily or Emily Florence that would fit her stated place of birth in the 1911.  Haven't been able to locate any likely looking baptism either.

This lady is causing me a load of frustration!   >:( >:( ::)
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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 17:50 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if I have found the connection point between Florence and James?  I have found a 1901 census for a Florence Lloyd living in Bristol.  She is employed as a domestic nurse.

Piece number   2365
Folio   11
Page   14

Registration District is Bristol

In 1901 James and his family are also in Bristol living in North Road.  James has a cycle and pram shop at 17 Queens Road and Royal York Crescent where Florence is residing is not that far away.  About 15 to 20 minutes walk away.  Could she have visited his shop to buy a pram for her employers or collected one and thereby met James?   ??? 

Need to try and trace this Florence in the births etc before jumping to conclusions though!  ::)
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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #33 on: Monday 12 February 18 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Hhmmph, well that's was the idea  :D - however I still can't find anything to fit the Florence in the 1901 census.

I've beavered away and eliminated some possibles by finding them in the 1911 census.   The Florence in the Bristol 1901 census seems to have come out of nowhere.  No birth registration to be found that would fit the birth year given which was 1877 and county of birth - Herefordshire.   ??? ???

I've decided to stick my neck out and get the birth cert of Emily Lloyd MQ 1873 Hereford just to see what her date of birth is.  Just a pdf one as that is cheaper. I've found what I think is her in the 1891 census in Colwall as a dressmaker with the Cains family.  Her place of birth  is Burghill which is the same as in the 1881 census.

Piece number 2051, Folio 60, Page 9

Ho hum, the joys and frustrations of family history.   ::) :o





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Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Florence Emily LLOYD born c.1874
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 14 February 18 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Well no point in following up the Emily Lloyd that I got the pdf for.  Her birthday is 24th December 1872.

I just don't know where to go from here.  I checked out all the possibles and have been left with two, one of whom was the above.

The only one left is the one I found in the 1901 living in Bristol which puts her in the same place as James, a 15 to 20 minutes walk away from his pram & cycle shop.  However she seems to be totally untraceable.  No birth registration in Herefordshire, can't find her before or after that 1901 census.

So what am I left to think?  Gave a false birth date, birth place, a false name?   Do I open the search country wide?  ???  ???

I noticed that on the death certificate for James, she calls herself Emily.  She is also Emily in the 1921 and 1923 electoral register at her address of 102 High Street, North Finchley.  When we get to 1939 she has become Florence Emily.

What a nightmare this woman is being.  :o  :o

Any thoughts will be gratefully received.

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire