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Offline atlantikman

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Henry's of Newry.
« on: Tuesday 15 December 15 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

My Great Grandfather Thomas Henry married Margaret Wilson in 1889 Belfast.  According to the 1939 Register, he was born on 5th December 1863.  The 1911 Census shows him as born in Newry County Down.  His brother George Henry was also born there on 20 March 1866.  George married Mary Wilson in 1893 Belfast.  Margaret and Mary were sisters, whose parents were John Wilson and Mary Young.

I cannot find a birth record for Thomas as he was born just before civil registration stated in 1864. George's parents were Moses Henry and Margaret Duggan and they were married in 1859 Newry. The marriage record shows Moses was aged 22/1837, a Labourer, and his father was George Henry, a Weaver.  Their religious denomination was shown as Church of Ireland; but on the 1901 Census Moses is shown as Presbyterian.  I think Moses may have had a brother Hugh, possibly also a Weaver, who married Agnes Kane in 1850 Newry Armagh.

A family story is that the Henry's are from French Hugenots who emigrated to Ireland in the 15th Century.  I would love to be able to find out more about George Henry of Dysert/Desert.

Paul.
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 20:50 GMT (UK) »
George Henry Weaver Dysert
John Henry Labourer Dysert
Hugh Henry Weaver Dysert

http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=323
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Henry, John Marriage
Wife: Anne Lister
Marriage Date: 31 May 1850
Husband's Father: Moses Henry
Wife's Father: John Lister

http://countydown.x10.mx/html/newry.htm

A few other Henrys named
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hallmark -- thanks for that.  I was aware of that info.
Paul.
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 08:58 GMT (UK) »
To save people wasting their time by searching for then posting details you already have found it really does help if you tell us exactly what information you already have.
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 09:49 GMT (UK) »
To save people wasting their time by searching for then posting details you already have found it really does help if you tell us exactly what information you already have.


Indeed!
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Here is the marriage of Moses Henry:

1859 Marriage:
Type    Civil Marriages
Date Of Marriage    20/11/1859
Husband Firstname    MOSES
Husband Surname    HENRY
Husband Address    DYSART [DESERT?]
Husband Occupation    LABOURER
Husband Age    22/1837
Husband Denomination    Church of Ireland
Husband Marital Status    Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Husband Father Firstname    GEORGE
Husband Father Surname    HENRY
Husband Father Occupation    WEAVER
Husband Mother Firstname    
Husband Mother Surname    
Husband Witness Firstname    HUGH
Husband Witness Surname    HENRY
Wife Firstname    MARGARET
Wife Surname    DUGGAN
Wife Address    SHINN
Wife Occupation    
Wife Age    21/1838
Wife Denomination    Church of Ireland
Wife Marital Status    Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Wife Father Firstname    WILLIAM
Wife Father Surname    DUGGAN
Wife Father Occupation    BLACKSMITH
Wife Mother Firstname    
Wife Mother Surname    
Wife Witness Firstname    NATHAN EDWARD
Wife Witness Surname    SMITH
Denomination    
Comment    BY LICENCE REV D BAGOT.
Address1    ST MARYS NEWRY Church of Ireland
Address2    NEWRY & MOURNE
Address2    NEWRY
Address4    Down.

I have found Moses on the 1901 Census and it looks like he died in 1913.  I have also found this:

Moses Henry, Newry: husband of Margaret Dougan/Dugan; father of George b. 20 Mar 1866 & Marguret b. 10 Apr 1868 & Samuel b. 12 Mar 1870 & Agnes b. 14 May 1872.

I know a fair amount about Samuel Henry, who married twice.  I have found no births between Moses's marriage in 1859 until my Great Grandfather Thomas Henry born in 1863.

This could be Hugh Henry, with a spinster sister:

1901 Census: 4 The Commons, Rathfriland, Down:
Agnes Henry head/single Presbyterian 65/1836 Seamstress B Co Down.
Hugh Henry brother/widower Presbyterian 70/1831 B Co Down.

It looks like Agnes died in 1905 and Hugh in 1907.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 18:43 GMT (UK) »
I have found Moses on the 1901 Census and it looks like he died in 1913.
Where was he in 1901? I certainly couldn't find the entry. Please post a link to the census record since you've apparently found him.
Have you found a death in 1913? this should be easy enough to verify via GRONI's site where you can view the actual certificate.
If you found him in 1901 and he did die in 1913 then he should also be in the 1911 census.

I have found no births between Moses's marriage in 1859 until my Great Grandfather Thomas Henry born in 1863.

You need to search for church records for pre-registration births. Have you tried to do this yet?

It looks like Agnes died in 1905 and Hugh in 1907.
Again, you can view the certificates on GRONI's site.
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 21:20 GMT (UK) »
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