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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 21:26 GMT (UK) »
No -- he's not that one, but this one: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Ravensdale_Street/1260756/

He is with two known daughters of his:

1878 FamilySearch:
name:   Sarah Henry
gender:   Female
birth date:   12 Feb 1878
birthplace:   Down, Down, Ireland
father's name:   Moses Henry
mother's name:   Margaret Henry Dougan
indexing project (batch) number:   C00574-0
system origin:   Ireland-EASy
source film number:   255997.

1880 FamilySearch:
name:   Agnes Henry
gender:   Female
birth date:   22 Apr 1880
birthplace:   Down, Ireland
father's name:   Moses Henry
mother's name:   Margaret Henry Dongan
indexing project (batch) number:   C00688-5
system origin:   Ireland-EASy
source film number:   256050.

I could not find him in 1911.
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 21:29 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 22:01 GMT (UK) »
I've just found Moses Henry in the 1911 Census --- aged 14 -- should be 74.  He is with his married daughter Sarah:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Foxglove/221078/

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Children of Moses Henry & Margaret Dougan-
- George (20 Mar.1866) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPW8-1Y9
- Marguret (10 Apr.1868) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYK-ZL4
- Samuel (12 Mar.1870) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F573-8DW
- William John (4 Mar.1874-1893) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBG-KY6
- Agnes (1 Feb.1876*) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXY-3DS
- Sarah (12 Feb.1878) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6S-TMX


* Pound st., Newry is father's residence NOT his birthplace and this sort of detail usually indicates that the child was not born at home
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 23:07 GMT (UK) »
The Moses Henry who died 1913 Belfast was age 66 but the Moses Henry you found in 1911 was age 74.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRVQ-P6G

Belfast City Cemetery (F1 449)
   https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6301.48867
Miss Elizabeth Henry, age 17 3/12, 45 Kilmood St., died 11 Aug.1889, buried 13 Aug.1889
Mrs Margaret Henry, age 48, 45 Kilmood St., died 13 Sept.1892, buried 15 Sept.1892
Mr William John Henry, age 19, 45 Kilmood St., died 3 Aug.1893, buried 5 Aug.1893
Miss Agnes Henry, age 5 months, 70 Mount St., died 18 Aug.1896, buried 20 Aug.1896
Mr Moses Henry, age 66, 20 Foxglove St., died 7 Feb.1913, buried 9 Feb.1913
   
There is a death for Moses Henry 1918 Newry around the same age as the above one-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR2K-TX7
Letters of Administration of Moses Henry late of Commons, Newry, County Down, farmer, who died 18 August 1918 granted at Belfast to Robert Henry, Commons, Newry, farmer. Effects: £255 12s 6d.

Your Moses Henry age 22 in 1859 according to marriage record-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGC5-8T8
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 December 15 09:18 GMT (UK) »
..."The Moses Henry who died 1913 Belfast was age 66 but the Moses Henry you found in 1911 was age 74...."

Reckon you need to do more research to follow the correct one!
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 17 December 15 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi aghadowey,

Thanks for all that info.  I'm 100% certain we have the correct Moses Henry who died aged 66 in 1913 -- even though his age is ten years out!  What confirms it, assuming this is a family grave, is that Miss Agnes Henry was the daughter of my Great Grandparents Thomas Henry and Margaret Wilson.  Also my Grandmother (another daughter) was born in 70 Mount Street, Castlereagh in 1894.  This branch relocated to Liverpool about 1898-1901.

The 1911 Census shows Moses Henry was born in "Co. Down Dysert T.L. C.D.".  Not sure what the letters stand for, and yes I think he was born about 1837.  His father George is living in Dysert (Desert?) about then.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 17 December 15 09:34 GMT (UK) »
I'm also concerned about a few other things here.

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This could be Hugh Henry, with a spinster sister:
1901 Census: 4 The Commons, Rathfriland, Down:
Agnes Henry head/single Presbyterian 65/1836 Seamstress B Co Down.
Hugh Henry brother/widower Presbyterian 70/1831 B Co Down.

It looks like Agnes died in 1905 and Hugh in 1907.
Who is Hugh? (please stop saying 'it looks like'- either a person died in year X or they didn't. If you are not sure that a record you found is for the correct person it's okay to say so but these bits can usually be easily verified by viewing the certificates)

In view of the 1901 address listed above (The Commons) then the Moses Henry died 1918 is possibly related and PRONI has several other Henrys of The commons, Newry listed. For example,

Probate of the Will of William Henry late of The Commons Newry County Down Farmer who died 27 November 1903 granted at Belfast to Jane Henry the Widow. Will mentions wife Jane, a brother Moses and a daughter.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Newry_Rural/Commons/1245365
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 17 December 15 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Aghadowey,

Thanks for your info and advice.  There is a Hugh Henry as witness to the marriage of Moses Henry to Margaret Duggan in 1859 Newry, giving his father as George Henry, a Weaver.

1848 PRONI t2961/1:28 April 1848: Citizens of Newry:
George Henry Weaver Dysert
John Henry Labourer Dysert
Hugh Henry Weaver Dysert

Assuming these three are related -- George might be the father, with two sons.  So the 1901 Census might be Hugh with a sister Agnes.  Yes, I had noticed in the Census's that The Commons has quite a few Henry's listed there, mainly Farmers.  I have read somewhere that after the Famine and come the age of mechanisation, some Linen Weavers resisted the change by reverting back to Farming.  So yes I agree they may be a link to my Henry's.

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