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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 10 August 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
Was your Hugh Henry a Painter?  I've found a marriage in 1879 Liverpool of a Mary Jane Henry 23/1856 married William Wagstaff. Her father was Hugh Henry, Painter.  Then in 1889 Liverpool, a Mary Jane Wagstaff 38/1851 (Widow) of 13 Essex Street married John Watkins. Her father was Hugh Henry, (deceased) Painter.  I noticed that on the marriage of John Henry to Annie Teresa McEvoy in 1877, Essex Street was mentioned there...  All marriages are on Ancestry.  It's maybe just a big coincidence...

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 10 August 17 16:55 BST (UK) »
Hello again
Thanks for your help and the info given. I've got Hugh's father down as Hugh married to Bridget Gribben. I'm not sue where this info came from possibly from my mum.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 10 August 17 17:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Paul
Yes Hugh Henry was a painter and so was his son John. And yes they all lived around Essex St or Upper Essex St.Liverpool. I hadn't got the marriage of Mary Jane and it looks like she is mine so thank you. I'll check more on Ancestry over the weekend when I have a bit more time.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 10 August 17 17:11 BST (UK) »
Ok no problems.  It looks like John Henry and his sister Mary Jane Henry both came to Liverpool.  It looks like father Hugh died between his daughter Mary Jane Henry's two marriages 1879-1889.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #31 on: Friday 11 August 17 11:34 BST (UK) »
Good morning Paul
I've had a quick look at the info you sent. Evrything does seem to tie in appart from the death of Hugh the farther. I have a copy of his wifes (Margaret Bartley) death cert in 1897 where he is the whitness. I'll keep checking.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #32 on: Friday 11 August 17 15:08 BST (UK) »
I cannot find a death 1879-1889 for Mary Jane Henry's first husband William Wagstaff so I suspect her second marriage may have been bigamus...  She is on the 1891 Census with her second husband (43 Essex Street) and her four children from her first marriage.  That may be the reason why her father Hugh Henry was shown as deceased...

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Addition: found this death at sea on FindMyPast:
1886 FindMyPast Deaths At Sea: Wm Wagstaffe aged 32/1854 Fireman on SS Armathwaite; Malarial fever and congestion of the liver; died at sea 26.7.86. [surname spelt same way as in 1881 Census].
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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 13 August 17 15:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info Paul
I've been checking the census, the 1891 census was a bit tricky as John Watkins was transcribed as Matheis, found hin through Daniel. They all seemed to live around the the Essex St. area in Liverpool. I've not had much time to search this weekend but will hopefully give it more time next week.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 13 August 17 21:42 BST (UK) »
on FindMyPast the 1891 Census record appeared ok.  I've found this stuff:

1901 Census: 48 Essex Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool:
Mary J Watkins mother/married 48/1853 B Ireland Rostevon?
1911 Census: 39 Tennyson Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool:
Mary Jane Wagstaff head 60/1851 married 34 years/1877 B Warrenpoint County Down Ireland Resident.
1937 FreeBMD D Search: JFM 1937 Liverpool South 8b 253 Mary J Wagstaff aged 84/1853.
1937 FreeBMD D Search: JFM 1937 Liverpool South 8b 253 Mary J Watkins aged 84/1853.

Mary Jane reverted to her Wagstaff name on the 1911 Census with her three boys.  It would be interesting to find out what name she used on her headstone (if any)...

And here is one of her boys:

1939 FreeBMD D Search: JAS 1939 Liverpool South 8b 178 Hugh Wagstaff aged 56/1883.
1939 Allerton Cemetery MI's: CE Section 14 Grave 257: SACRED / TO THE MEMORY OF / HUGH WAGSTAFF / BORN 24TH JUNE 1883 - DIED 25TH JULY 1939.
1939 Wills Calendar: WAGSTAFF Hugh of Clonallon Aigburth-road Liverpool died 25 July 1939 Probate Liverpool 25 September to William Henry Wagstaff assistant catering manager and William Abercromby solicitor.  Effects 28190 19s 8d.  Resworn 28905 13s. 10d.

Quite a bit of money there ... note the house name...

http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/C/Clonallon-Upper-Iveagh-Down.php

So I think there is some link to Clonallon near Rosstrevor.

Griffiths Valuation lists Gribbin/Gribbon in Clonallon, but I see no Henry's there.

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Re: Henry's of Newry.
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 13 August 17 22:34 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you very much
Just checked the will on Ancestry. I've found a William Henry Wagstaff in 1955 of Yew Tree Drive who left 474 to Emily Elizabeth Wagstaff. What did he do with the money? I take it he had a good time.

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I like the name of the house.