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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 19:40 GMT (UK) »
And the big family, still in Glasgow, in 1901:

John R Sladen 42  Waiter Central Police Office b. epot indies, Bengal (as transcribed)
Ellen M Sladen 42 b. Ireland, lomesich (as transcribed)
William Sladen 14
Gladys Sladen 12
Ella Sladen 9
Alice Sladen 4
Ethel Sladen 7
Charles Sladen 5
John Sladen 2

Address: 282, Buchanan St., Glasgow/St Rollox

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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 19:49 GMT (UK) »
There is a death entry showing on Scotlands People for a John William Sladen born c. 1859, in the Glasgow area after 1911 (sorry, haven't narrowed down years further on the search screen).

The 1911 census image is only available as original image on Scotlands People.

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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 21:43 GMT (UK) »
WOW!!

A bit overwhelmed with all this help and info, thank you all.

John's parents were William Dare Sladen and Annie Sladen (nee Ryves) as shown on the marriage certificate. Both parents were deceased by this time, 1884. William's Rank or Profession is recorded as "soldier"

Ellen's parents were Patrick Keane, a farmer and deceased by this time, and Mary Keane nee Welsh

John and Ellen are both aged 26 on the certificate

From various snippets I have seen around the internet, it would appear Ellen was born in Tralee, in Ireland, though the 1901 census for Glasgow would appear otherwise. I managed to get a look at that 1901 census via Scotland's People - "Where Born" for John and Ellen are partly crossed through, though for John it can be seen that it is Bengal, East Indies. Ellens entry has been scored through, though Ireland is legible - MonicaL has already posted this info and has seen it transcribed as  "lomesich" ??

Sladen - Perth and Glasgow, Scotland
Sladen - British India - Pakistan
Keane - Perth and Glasgow, Scotland
Keane - Tralee, Ireland
Finnegan - Glasgow

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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 21:46 GMT (UK) »
I managed to get a look at that 1901 census via Scotland's People - "Where Born" for John and Ellen are partly crossed through, though for John it can be seen that it is Bengal, East Indies. Ellens entry has been scored through, though Ireland is legible - MonicaL has already posted this info and has seen it transcribed as  "lomesich" ???

Possibly Limerick?
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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 31 December 15 13:49 GMT (UK) »
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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 31 December 15 16:52 GMT (UK) »
That sounds a great offer, Annie  :)

.... I managed to get a look at that 1901 census via Scotland's People - "Where Born" for John and Ellen are partly crossed through, though for John it can be seen that it is Bengal, East Indies. Ellens entry has been scored through, though Ireland is legible


You can contact SP and request an enhance scan for the section you have a problem reading. They are very quick to respond to this type of request. See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=1210

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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 31 December 15 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Henry St Barbe Ramsay Sladen born Jan 1 1863, bap May 21 1863 at Morar near Gwalior, parents William Dare sladen of H.M 81st  and Annie Sladen

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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 31 December 15 18:12 GMT (UK) »
William Dare Sladen, Lieut 81st Reg, age 27 married Arethusa Ann Ryves, age 15 at Allahabad (Mehan Meer?) on Oct 6 1856. Witnesses included Thomas I Ryves.

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Re: John William Frank Ramsay Sladen marriage to Ellen Mary Keane domestic servant
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 31 December 15 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Marriage -
William Dare Sladen, of full age, widower, late Capt of 81st Reg to Sarah Jane Whittingham, age 15 years, on 17 Mar 1870. Fathers Ramsay Sladen and George Whittingham

(Note - I saw somewhere that William had transferred to the 101st  from the 81st, resigning shortly after?)