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Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I have found a birth on Ancestry for a possible match for my tree.

Its for a Raymond H A Adam
Born Oct - Dec 1914
Mothers Name:  Nutt
Ref:  Oakham Vol 7a Page 564

That's fine, I will probably order that certificate.

However on that page image there is another (two lines down from the first) under the Surname Adam. Same date Oct - Dec 1914.

Its for a (Male).  Mothers name:  Nutt  Ref: Oakham Vol 7a Page 564

Does anyone know how I can find out if that is relating to the same birth, or another birth (a baby who died maybe) to either the same or another mother - without having to order two certificates.

Thank you for any help anyone could offer.

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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:29 GMT (UK) »
I see the same Adam births for 1914 but mother's maiden name is "Hutt"....looks like it could be twins.
Freebmd:

ADAM  Raymond H A  Hutt  Oakham  7a 564   Scan available - click to view
ADAM  Yvonne M  Pointin  Wirral  8a 780   Scan available - click to view
ADAM  Male  Hutt  Oakham  7a 564 
 
If you send for Raymond's Birth Cert. it will say on it if he was one of twins.

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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:32 GMT (UK) »
I've just looked at the image Carol and found that both should be NUTT- I have advised Free BMD.

Twins was my first thought too.But could it be that Raymond wasn't given a christian name at first,so he was registered as Male and later another entry was sent to the GRO with the name Raymond?

Carol
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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:33 GMT (UK) »
This could be the marriage.

Marriages Sep 1912   

Adam    Benjamin A   to Nutt   in Windsor    2c   1083    
Nutt    Ida M   to Adam   in Windsor    2c   1083    

There is no Adam death for a new baby in Oakham at the right time.

Right area for dad Benjamin's death too?

Deaths Sep 1935 
Adam    Benjamin A   age  85    Oakham    7a   319   
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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:36 GMT (UK) »
I didn't find a male death in Oakham for that time period on Freebmd.
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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 December 15 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Thanks for your help.  I have ordered the birth certificate for Raymond H A Adam, which I hope will prove that his mother was Ida Nutt. She married Benjamin Adam.
Ida was one of three daughters born to Alfred Young Nutt (and Mary George), and for several years now i have tried to find out if he had any grandchildren. Although all three daughters married, I have been unable to trace any children till now. I will eagerly await the certificate.

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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 December 15 18:26 GMT (UK) »
IDA Mary Adam died on 28th Jan 1954-and left a will.

Probate says...Ida Mary Adam of the Cottage Oakham Rutlandshire,widow,died on 28th Jan 1954 at the Royal Infirmary Leicester. Probate Leicester 13th April to Barclays Bank Ltd and Raymond Hugh Addington ADAM of no occupation.

Effects  10121 17s 2d


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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 December 15 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Benjamin Addington Adam died in 1935 and also left a will.

Benjamin Addington Adam of the Cottage Oakham Rutlandshire died 12th Aug 1935,probate London 23rd Sept to Cecil Brodrick solicitor,Arthur Cecil Pope retired bank manager and the Rev Henry Thomas Malaher clerk.

Effects 17342 2s 7d
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Re: Birth Query Oakham Surname Adam
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 December 15 19:49 GMT (UK) »
I know that The Cottage, Oakham was Ida & Benjamin's address,  so its looking hopeful.
Its probably taken me so long to track down any children because the mother was indexed as HUTT.
Thanks for your help everyone.