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Samuel Setter 1843 and earlier
« on: Friday 01 January 16 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello - Happy New Year to everyone.

I am having difficulty connecting the correct 'Setters' to my uncle's family tree before 1843 when Samuel Setter who was born in Crediton.  He married Elizabeth Ann Edwards King - this information I know is correct.

Samuel's marriage to Elizabeth in 1865 (Totnes) records his father as John and I found him in the 1851 census age 9 with his parents John and Ann (age 56 & 54) both born in Crediton.  The 1841 census shows John and Ann had younger children so I searched the parish records for baptisms then their marriage.  John and Ann married in Crediton (both of the parish) on 8 April 1822 but unfortunately their parents' names were not recorded, which is where I am struggling.

According to the 1841 - 1861 censuses John was born approx 1795 - 1805 so I searched baptism records for this period for a John and could only find one in Crediton July 1795 with George and Susanna as his parents.  They were 'of' Cheriton Bishop which I believe is about 7 miles away, so the family may have originated from there.

George and Susanna seem the most likely but I find it strange that John and Ann didn't name any of their 6 children after either of his parents which I think was unusual in those days.  (John & Ann's children were: William 1823, John 1825, Henry 1829, Maria 1832, Sarah 1834 and Samuel 1843.)  Or perhaps they just wanted to be different!

Before I definitely add them to my uncle's tree, are there any expert researchers who can find anything different that could help please?  (Or maybe someone also researching this line?)

Many thanks
Sue

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Re: Samuel Setter 1843 and earlier
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 January 16 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I can see your problem but perhaps a look at their burials at Crediton will reassure you.
John Setter  buried 25.3.1863 age 67 therefore born 1795 to March 1796
Ann 2.3.1865 age 68 years therefore should be 1796 to Mar 1797.

The most likely baptism for John is the one you have and July 1795 would be an exact fit.
Ann's is a year out.
Ann twin daughter of John and Ann Coles 11.3.1798 with her twin sister Sarah at Crediton.
John and Ann's children are mostly named after her family.
Siblings,Mary 12.3.1793,James 7.6.1795,Sarah,William 14.9.2800,John 31.7.1803,Elizabeth 22.9.1805 and Maria 29.8.1813.
John Coles and Ann Lendon married 28.5.1792 at Crediton.
Perhaps they just got on better with her family?

On the Setter side we have George and Sussanna Hammet married 1.4.1792 at CB
Son John ,then George 10.6.1798 now no mention of CB.
Witness to the marriage is Samuel Friggs and Bent? Brown perhaps a hint where the Samuel came from.
Susan buried CB 15.8.1834 age 69 from the poor house.
Baptism CB 25.11.1764 to Grace Hamnett again fits nicely.
It looks as though George was born 2.2.1748 CB to Richard and Susan and was buried 16.1.1822 age 73 Crediton.
A possible first marriage to Joanna Drew 15.12.1773 who died 25.9.1784. witnesses Richard Setter and John Ascott.
Children Ann 26.7.1774,Sussana 10.12.1776,George 22.6.1779,Ann 30.1.1782 and Mary 27.7.1784

Does that help?I really think you have the right family.

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Re: Samuel Setter 1843 and earlier
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 January 16 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thank you so much for researching and looking at this for me - a fresh pair of eyes was needed!

I agree, I think it is most definitely the correct family line and when I've put it all together my 89 year old uncle will be delighted!

Thank you again - and Happy New Year.

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Re: Samuel Setter 1843 and earlier
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 January 16 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ciderdrinker

I've been looking through all the info you kindly provided me with adding it to the tree and, now I feel confident it's the correct branch, I've looked further back.

I was wondering if the parents of George Setter could possibly be Joseph Setter and Mary Wilmotts?  There is a baptism of their son George in Cheriton Bishop 2.09.1764.  What do you think?  He would be closer to Susanna's age - although it wouldn't explain where the 'Samuel' came from later on.

If Joseph and Mary are correct, in turn it would make Joseph's father Clement Setter born 1718 CB and his father was Richard born 1693 CB - his father was also a Clement.  If this is correct I've managed to go back a long way!

I'd like to know what you think and if I've missed anything.
Many thanks
Sue


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Re: Samuel Setter 1843 and earlier
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 January 16 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Re: my previous message - I've just discovered John and Ann Coles had another son 1808 who they named Samuel so that may have been where the name entered the family line?