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Kirby surnames around Oldland I cannot place .
« on: Monday 11 January 16 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone advise on some stray Kirby names I've come across while looking at this family surname of mine .


Joseph and William Kirby  bp . 1842 at Oldland , St Annes have parents Joseph and Mary .

I have a Joseph and Mary Kirby ( Harding ) who mrd . c . 1836 and had sons names Joseph ( b. abt 1837 ref. 1861 census ) and William ( b . abt 1848 ref . 1861 census )...and although William is a strong pos . to be their offspring , Josephs b . date is a long way off .

Could there have been another Joseph who d . at some stage prior to 1848 of their mrg ??

I also have a Joseph Kirby who mrd . Lucy Monks ( Dec quarter 1863 ) who I believe had Elmira
( bp . 1875 St . Annes ) . Elmira I can find no other info . for but wondered as to Josephs family past .

There are many of the same Christian names ( Joseph , William , Samuel especially ) within the various generations of the Kirbys which have caused problems cross referencing and hope someone may have info  . / or accesss to info . to place those names given above .

I have come across and searched the Bitton families site recently but that sadly has been of no use .

Appreciate any advise and info .
Purnell - Thornbury / Leon . Stanley
Strong - Thornbury / FOD
Kirby - Bitton / Oldland
Burgess - Bedminster
George - Hotwells
Ryan - Bristol
Richards - Bristol / N . Devon
Bennett - Sodburys
Fisher - Thornbury area
Dolling - Wick / Abson
Thomas / Evans - Merthyr / Aberdare / Trecynon
Tanner - Bristol
Ablett - Thornbury area
Flook - East Bristol
Bennett - Oldbury / Thornbury
Spencer - Wilts
Blannin(g) - Bristol
Pollard - Bedminster
Johnson ( Duffield ) - Bristol ( Monmouth )

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Re: Kirby surnames around Oldland I cannot place .
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 January 16 17:57 GMT (UK) »
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also have a Joseph Kirby who mrd . Lucy Monks ( Dec quarter 1863 )

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but wondered as to Josephs family past .

No details given as to his birthyear or birthplace and no mention of who he names as his father on his marriage cert? 

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Could there have been another Joseph who d . at some stage prior to 1848 of their mrg ??

Given that you say the first Joseph was b 1837 and the next 1848 - haven't you checked freebmd to see if the first Joseph died between those dates?

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Joseph and William Kirby  bp . 1842 at Oldland , St Annes have parents Joseph and Mary .


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I have a Joseph and Mary Kirby ( Harding ) who mrd . c . 1836 and had sons names Joseph ( b. abt 1837 ref. 1861 census ) and William ( b . abt 1848 ref . 1861 census )...and although William is a strong pos . to be their offspring , Josephs b . date is a long way off .

How can William b 1848 be a "strong pos" for the William baptised 1842?  The fact that both were baptised the same day suggests one of 2 things - they were twins or one was born earlier and baptised late

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who I believe had Elmira
( bp . 1875 St . Annes ) . Elmira I can find no other info

You don't appear to have checked freebmd where you will find both her birth and death registrations
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Re: Kirby surnames around Oldland I cannot place .
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 January 16 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Baptisms do not always occur immediately after birth so it would not be unusual for Joseph b 1837 to not be baptised until 1842 along with a sibling.

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