Percy Bray 1896 Liskeard

[daftoldbat]

I have been undone by the 1939 census! Because of that, I have discovered that there were TWO Percy Brays born in Liskeard in July 1896 - one on July 12th and one on July 15th - and I have been building my family tree on the wrong one. The father of the one I need to trace was called Samuel, not William, as I have now and the information I can find on the censuses is ambiguous at best. Can only find the wrong Percy in BMD records, unless he was registered in 4q 1897 and not 4q 1896. Is there anyone out there who could possibly help?

[groom]

So is yours the one born on the 15th July and therefore not the one who was in the Navy?

How do you know that yours was born in Liskeard, the 1939 just gives where they were living then doesn't it?

[sgf28]

Percy Bray 3rd qtr 1896 Liskeard 5c 50
Percy Bray 3rd qtr 1897 Liskeard 5c 43

And also Percival John Bray born 3rd qtr 1898 Liskeard 5c 51

[osprey]

from the opc database

Percy Bray bp 13 Dec 1899, son of Samuel & Clara of Liskeard, birth noted as 13 June 1897.

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/person-search/

[groom]

I was about to suggest that one, Osprey

1901
RG13 Piece     2193 Folio   73 Page   35
Godfreys Court, Bay Tree Hill, Liskeard

Samuel   Bray   Head    29    General Carrier      Bodmin, Cornwall
Carletta   Bray   Wife       31                          Tywardreath, Cornwall
Frena Louisa   Bray       8                            Liskeard, Cornwall
Percy   Bray       3                                           Liskeard, Cornwall
Fredck George   Bray       1                             Liskeard, Cornwall
Samuel Mafeking   Bray       0                      Liskeard, Cornwall

[osprey]

someone has helpfully put on the opc database the birth cert details for Percy's sister Irene Louisa Bray which gives Clara's maiden name as Geach.

Samuel Mafeking Bray died in 1905

[DavidJP]

Hi,

I can see baptisms for six children of Samuel & Carletta/Clara Bray on the Cornwall OPC in Liskeard as follows:

Samuel John Bray, bapt 13th April 1896, father a labourer residing in Borough. Birth noted as: Ap 13? P.
Emma Ethel Bray, bapt 3rd Aug 1897, father a labourer residing in Borough. Birth noted as: Private. Born May 9/96
Catherine Bray, bapt 4th Oct 1898, father a labourer residing in Borough. Birth noted as: Born Sep 28. Private.
Frederick George Bray, bapt 13th Dec 1899 (same date as Percy), father a labourer residing in Borough. Birth noted as: Born Oct 21st 1899.
Percy Bray, bapt 13th Dec 1899, father a labourer residing in Borough. Birth noted as: Born June 13th 1897.
William Heber Bray, bapt 22nd Jan 1903, father a labourer residing in Borough. Birth noted as: Born April 12th 1902. Transcriber Notes shows: P.

Irene Louisa Bray born 20th Feb 1893, father a general labourer residing at Godfrey's Court, Liskeard Borough.

Three burials in Liskeard for the family also:

Samuel John Bray (b1895?) buried in Liskeard on 17th Apr 1896 aged 19 months. Residence: Borough.
Emma Ethel Bray (b1896) buried in Liskeard on 8th Aug 1897 aged 15th months. Residence: Borough.
Samuel Mafeking Bray (b1901) buried in Liskeard on 23rd April 1905 age 4 years. Residence: Gut Lane. Burial noted as being on Easter Day.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David

[DavidJP]

Hi,

A marriage on FreeBMD for Samuel Bray & Carletta/Clara Geach:

Bray, Samuel to Geach, Claretta Dawe; Dec Qtr 1899; Liskeard Reg Dist; Volume 5c Page 121.

The marriage is definitely 1899, it is not a typo. The marriage does not appear on the Cornwall OPC either.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David

[osprey]

it looks like Clara Geach was first married to Edwin Dawe sept qtr 1882 Liskeard vol 5c pg 79 and is on the 1891 with Edwin & 5 children ref RG12/1813 folio 18 pg 10.

I haven't found Edwin & kids on the 1901 census but there seem to be more children baptised to Edwin & Clara between 1902 & 1907 in Menheniot.