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On-line record does not exist in real life?
« on: Wednesday 13 January 16 21:25 GMT (UK) »
In the course of my research, I appear to have an ancestor, Hannah Price. According to FamilySearch, she is christened in Castle Frome, Herefordshire on 10th May 1778.

However, today I looked at the parish records in Herefordshire Archives and there is no entry for a Hannah Price baptism in Castle Frome for that date, or any other, for that matter.

Ancestry is no help as it just repeats the FamilySearch entry.

There are/were no non-conformist churches/chapels in Castle Frome.

Any ideas?

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Re: On-line record does not exist in real life?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Could it be a user submitted record? The old FamilySearch used to say, but I'm not sure how you check on the new one.

Interestingly there is also a Hannah Price, parents John and Elizabeth, baptised the same day at Clifford, Hereford. Is that the same place?
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 21:37 GMT (UK) »
The film reference given 1594692 also has registers for Clehonger and Clifford. Perhaps it is actually from one of those

Ah, I see from groom's reply that it might
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Groom - I'm afraid they are on opposite sides of the county. She marries William Cole at Avenbury in 1805, which is 4 miles from Castle Frome (and also where William Cole was born), so the record has a logical fit, but simply doesn't exist in the parish records....

Also her children are all baptised in Castle Frome too.


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 21:47 GMT (UK) »
So could it be that someone has seen the Clifford baptism, assumed it is for the Hannah who was born in Castle Frome and submitted it as that? Seems a huge coincidence that two Hannahs, with parents of the same name, are baptised the same day.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Agreed - does that happen?

Is there any point searching elsewhere such as The Genealogist or other UK websites or do they just replicate the FamilySearch data?

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 22:07 GMT (UK) »
As mentioned in my post above, there's a film reference so forget user-submitted entries.

Looks like family search have just not allocated it to the correct parish
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Here are the live links to the family search listings. 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NT6D-DLK   GS film 1594692
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMML-HJB    GS film 1594692 (same as above)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYQ6-3ZV   GS film 992337 Hannah Price, 10 May 1778, Clifford, Hereford, James & Elizabeth PRICE

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMML-HJB   GS992234
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1P1-LTY   GS992234
(indexed with surname as PREECE :) )  Hannah Preece 10 May 1778, Leominster, Hereford, James & Elizabeth PREECE

These are not from the 'submitted' (genealogies) section of their website. 

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Re: On-line record does not exist in real life?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 January 16 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Majm, thanks for the links - so what is your view re the Castle From record?