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John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« on: Thursday 14 January 16 11:26 GMT (UK) »
I have traced the birth of a John Henry Broggy to his parents Matthew and Ellen[Thorn] Broggy in 1871 to the Registration District of Limerick.

Name   John Henry Braggy
Gender   Male
Birth Date   12 Jul 1870
Birthplace   Cooley Casey, Clare, Ireland
Father's Name   Mathew Braggy
Mother's Name   Ellen Thorn Braggy

I believe that John married Margaret Liston in 1903.

Party 1 Name   JOHN BROGGY
Party 2 Name   MARGARET  LISTON
Date of Event   28 November 1903
Group Registration ID   1974479
SR District/Reg Area   Limerick

I have also found a death record which I believe may belong to the same John.

Name   John Broggy
Event Type   Death
Event Date   Jul - Sep 1951
Event Place   Limerick, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year   Jul - Sep 1951
Registration District   Limerick
Age   81
Birth Year (Estimated)   1870
Volume Number   5
Page Number   219

Just wondering if anyone could verify all these records pertain to the same person.
Brophy, Broggy, Sewell, Day, Lark, Webster, Crump

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 January 16 13:53 GMT (UK) »

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 January 16 13:54 GMT (UK) »
In case you do not have to date: (edited to add - Sinann this is where!)

John BROGGY and Margaret LISTON had five children by 1911
and were living at #7 in Clonconane (Limerick North, Limerick) shown on the census as BRUGGY

Births of Children all shown as BROGGY
Matthew Thomas Dec 18 1903 death of Matthew 1905
Mary Ellen Dec 06 1904
Anne Mary Apr 18 1906
Ellen Mar 15 1909
Margaret Aug 15 1910
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 January 16 14:10 GMT (UK) »
This appears to be John and his mother in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Killeely/Derrymore/1083941/
Brother Matthew in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Killeely/Derry_More/367202/

Matthew Henry BROGGY s/o Matthew of Meelick
m. Feb 14 1901 in the Cathedral, Limerick
Catherine FROST (widow) d/o James O'SHAUGHNESSY of Pennywell
Catherine was previously married to Thomas FROST

I believe the William Shaughnessy shown was actually FROST b. Oct 31 1888
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder


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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 January 16 14:18 GMT (UK) »

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 January 16 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sinann - corrected now
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 January 16 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you my luck for picking up on Catherine's first marriage.  That put's William in perspective.

I have all of John and Margaret Liston's children.

The age relationship on the death record would seem to indicate that it is the same John.

Name   John Broggy
Event Type   Death
Event Date   Jul - Sep 1951
Event Place   Limerick, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year   Jul - Sep 1951
Registration District   Limerick
Age   81
Birth Year (Estimated)   1870
Volume Number   5
Page Number   219

Birth 1870 corresponds.

John died in Clare and Margaret went to live in Dublin and have been tracing all her children.
Brophy, Broggy, Sewell, Day, Lark, Webster, Crump

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 January 16 15:21 GMT (UK) »
G'day sinann.

Yes the 1901 census is a help and puts John with his mother and unmarried in 1901.  He married Margaret Liston in 1903 and I feel comfortable that the death in 1951 is his as it tallies with his birth in 1870.

I've tracked his brother Matthew Henry and his line. 

Going back from there is the tricky bit.

It seems that there were three brothers born to Matthew and Ellen [Thorn] Broggy.

DESCENDANTS OF MATTHEW HENRY AND ELLEN [THORN] BROGGY

    Matthew Henry Broggy   married   Catherine O'Shaughnessy
   John Henry Broggy   married   Margaret Liston
   William Henry Broggy   married   

Can't seem to find anything on William Henry.

Name   William Henry
Gender   Male
Christening Place   403, Cooley Casey, Clare, Ireland
Birth Date   12 Jul 1871
Birthplace   Cooley Casey, Clare, Ireland
Father's Name   Mathew Bruggy
Mother's Name   Ellen Thom

He's not in the 1901 census.

Appreciate your help.

Brophy, Broggy, Sewell, Day, Lark, Webster, Crump

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Re: John and Margaret [Liston] Broggy.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 January 16 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Can't find his grave and he doesn't appear to have a will, you may just have to get the death certificate.
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do