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Re: Murphy & Broshen from Cork
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 February 18 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi, am still trying to find something about these two - have taken a dna test but no matches at present.  However, all Michael & Margaret's children were baptised catholic.  I just wondered whether, although they married in C of E church in Deptford in 1826 I think this was because marriages in a catholic church were not valid at this date.

Is it possible that they also married in a catholic church, which I imagine might give more info, and if so can anyone find such a record please?

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Re: Murphy & Broshen from Cork - do I have a chance?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 February 18 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Have you found the birth registrations for any of the children born after 1837?

There's these births on the GRO index in Greenwich. 

MURPHY, ELLEN       BROSAN     Order
GRO Reference: 1838  D Quarter in GREENWICH UNION  Volume 05  Page 209   Order
MURPHY, JOHANNA       BROSON     Order
GRO Reference: 1840  S Quarter in GREENWICH UNION  Volume 05  Page 195   Order
 

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Re: Murphy & Broshen from Cork - do I have a chance?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 February 18 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Yes thanks Hurworth, have plenty of info coming forward.

Just trying any way I can think of to glean any clue as to specifically where in Ireland they might originate.  I read somewhere that although catholics had to get married in a c of e church they often also married in a catholic church.

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Re: Murphy & Broshen from Cork - do I have a chance?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 February 18 22:03 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast is the best place for Catholic parish records.  Hopefully there are more records to come.

They don't have this marriage.

To be honest, I don't think you'll find it.  For starters, when they say Cork you don't know whether they mean the city or the county.  I'm in the same boat with a Julia Brown/e who census records said was born in Ireland (and she didn't age 10 years every decade) in the first decade of the 1800s .
 On her last census before she died she said she was born in Cork. 

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Re: Murphy & Broshen from Cork - do I have a chance?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 March 18 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Some early Catholic registers were transcribed and published by Catholic Record Society (CRS) 100 years ago in CRS journals. Some of these are available on the Internet Archive.
 https://archive.org/search.php?query=Catholics
Some journals contain many topics so it's necessary to open those to check contents pages.

Catholic Family History Society
https://catholicfhs.wordpress.com

I looked up Deptford on GEN UKI but didn't see a Catholic church mentioned.

Even if there was a record of a Catholic wedding it might not help you. There may have been different witnesses to C of E. ceremony.