Alexander Shaw marriage to Annabella Hardie in Bloomfield, New York in 1910

[specialkg]

I am trying to find a record of a Alexander Shaw born 1881 in Scotland marrying a Annabella Isobel Shaw in Bloomfield, New York. in 1910.  He died in Scotland in 1956.

I am trying to put together he and his families movements between 1910 and 1956.

Any help with US censuses or newspaper entries would be much appreciated or a record of their return passage to Scotland.  There may have been a daughter Marjorie.
Thanks
Betty

[aghadowey]

For census records you can start with www.familysearch.org (free) or a subscription site like Ancestry (if you are not a subscriber then check to see if your local public library or LDS centre have this available).

There's a Bloomfield in Ontario Co., N.Y.- roughly south of Rochester- is this the place you mean?

For newspapers use google or try http://www.fultonhistory.com/

Ancestry (and possibly Find My Past, another subscription site) has records for U.K. incoming passengers up to 1960.

There may also be U.S. Social Security records.

I did a quick look in census records but can't spot Alexander Shaw with a wife Annabella or even in Rochester area of N.Y. state.

[specialkg]

Thanks for your time.

I have searched family search and find my past with no luck.

The information of thge marriage was taken from a site called libindx which deals with records for the Morayshire, Scotland area.  That is where both couples originally came from. I will request the newspaper entry from the local newspaper to see if it gives any more clues.

I was hoping that someone with access to American censuses may locate them.  UK censuses are only accessible to 1911.
Thanks
Betty

[aghadowey]

Do you know what occupation Alexander had in the U.S.?

[specialkg]

Sorry, I know very little about this family but I have just found a death of a Marjorie Elspet Shaw on Libindx, the site I mentioned, having died in Scotland 1997 at the age of 85 years, making her birth c1912.  Parents Alexander and Annabelle.  This might help with finding them in a census, assuming they stayed long enough to be recorded.
Thanks
Betty

[jorose]

Well, that source gives us a little more information:

Spouse's Name : ANNABEL HARDIE
Date of Marriage : 07 OCT 1910
Place of Marriage : BLOOMFIELD NEW YORK USA

Familysearch does have Ontario Co marriages, though, and I cannot find them there (not just on the name-search, which does not contain all the information - I checked the images in New York County Marriages also).

Do you know any more about when/where Annabel was born? It might be that the newspaper mistook the location (for example if that was the residence of one or both but not where they married) or the date.

[jorose]

https://billiongraves.com/grave/person/16042320
 - her gravestone mentions a brother "Hardie" interred in Glasgow.

the London Gazette has some references to an Edward Hardie Shaw in Glasgow in the 1930s - seems he worked in the postal/telegraph service?

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ - have you checked here for records of the family back in Scotland?

[aghadowey]

Posting this possibility-

6 Oct./1912 "Cameronia" arrived New York from Glasgow, Scotland:
Anna J, Shaw, 28?, Lockabers? Scotland, going to husband Shaw [no first name given] N.Y. [can't make out exact address]
Marjorie Shaw, age 8 months
The above 2 passengers are crossed out which indicates they didn't travel as intended?

I couldn't find 'Lockabers' but there is a Fochabers not far from Aberlour where Marjorie Shaw died 13 July 1997.

So, wondering if Annabella/Anna? came back to Scotland to have Marjorie and then planned to re-join Alexander in New York City.

[specialkg]

Brilliant, thanks for everybody's efforts.

It certainly looks like you have found the correct people.

Fochabers is where the Hardies originally came from.

I have found death entries for all three people on Scotlands People.  Unfortunately there is no image available at the moment for Marjorie and Annabel but the information I could access indicates I have the correct people.  It was on Alexander's extract that I found he had a daughter.

I wonder if Annabel decided to stay in Scotland and Alexander returned to join them when he could.

I will now have a look at the newspaper entry that you mention.

Thanks everybody.
Betty