Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted

[jim1]

There may not be a link. The "adoption" may have been handled by the Church or local GP.
There are just 2 Jane Elizabeth Booth births c. 1870 England.
One in Staffs to a Henry & Hannah (1869) & one in London to a Henry & Sarah (1870).

[eddiebooth]

Edward Maurice Booth
As I cannot find any other Booth born around the right time (03/02/1900), I am coming round to the likelihood that Edward Maurice Booth may be my GF.
This in turn points to Jane Elizabeth Booth, his mother, being my GGM. The 1901 Belfast census states that she was born in England. Her birth date would fall between Apr 1870 and Mar 1871.
This would actually fit in with what my mother told me, that the Booths heralded from Staffordshire.
Looking at the 1871 census for England and at Free BMD, there are a number of possiblities, but 3 stand out.

Jane Elizabeth Booth, b June 1870, St Geo in the East (Now Stepney, London). Found her in Free BMD but not the 1871 census in the London area. Possible her family lived elsewhere, or she died pre-census 1871

Jane Booth, b1871, Leek, Staffs - no mention of her living anywhere other than Leek, and her death in 1921 is in Leek as well

Jane Booth, no dob but christened on 16/09/1870 in Tunstall, Wolstanton Nr Stoke, Staffs.
This one is interesting as her father is Edward Booth and her mother Agnes Elizabeth. In the 1881 census the family have moved to Stone, Staffs. By the 1891 census the family have moved again, to Uttoxeter in Staffs, but Jane (now aged 20) is no longer at home.

still digging

[jim1]

I saw those but without a marriage cert. giving her father's name it's not possible to say which one she is.

[eddiebooth]

I saw those but without a marriage cert. giving her father's name it's not possible to say which one she is.

I know, and the birth certificate mentions no father while the following years census states she is unmarried.
Not sure where I can go from here

[Ladyhawk]

Jane Elizabeth Booth, b June 1870, St Geo in the East (Now Stepney, London). Found her in Free BMD but not the 1871 census in the London area. Possible her family lived elsewhere, or she died pre-census 1871

Wondering if this might be the above JEB born c 1870 St George in the East

1871 RG10; Piece: 530; Folio: 34; Page: 5
BOOTH
Henry 32 Lambeth Carpenter & joiner
Sarah 25 Southwark
Sarah 5 Bermondsey
Ellen 2 St George in the East, Surrey
JANE 1 dittoed

1881 RG11; Piece: 472; Folio: 86; Page: 46
Henry Booth Carpenter, Sarah
Sarah 15, JANE 11, Anne 6, Henry 5 & Sophia 2

Jane BOOTH age 19 father Henry Carpenter (dec’d)
married James Pearce on 15 Oct 1888 at St Mary Spital Square

Jane & James Pearce witnessed her sister Annie Elizabeth Booth’s marriage to Frederick Harvey

Jane Booth, no dob but christened on 16/09/1870 in Tunstall, Wolstanton Nr Stoke, Staffs.

This one is interesting as her father is Edward Booth and her mother Agnes Elizabeth.

In the 1881 census the family have moved to Stone, Staffs.

still digging

Is the the 1881 census you are referring too?

1881 RG11; Piece: 2693; Folio: 52; Page: 8
Walton Hill House
Edward BOOTH 43 Biddulph  Farmer 98 Acres Employs 3 Men & 1 Boy,wife Agnes 32,
JANE 10 Tunstall, Sarah V 8, Joseph 4, William 3

Marriage (FreeBMD)
1869 Wolstanton
Edward Booth
name on same page
Agnes Elizabeth Tellwright

1869 Mow Cop, St Thomas (Staffordshire BMD)
BOOTH   Edward   
TELLWRIGHT   Agnes E   

2 June The will with two Codicils of William Tellwright formerly of the Beeches but late of March Cottage both in Wolstanton. Died 15 April 1885 proved at the Prinicipal Registry by William Anthony Marsden Tellwright, son  of Beeches Colliery Proprietor & Edward BOOTH, Farmer of Walton Hill House Stone two of the Exexcutors, Personal Estate £5,523 17s. 7d.

from Staffordshire BMD mother's maiden name TELLWRIGHT
1870 BOOTH   Jane                   Tunstall   
1872 BOOTH   Sarah Victoria   Tunstall   
1874 BOOTH   Mary Agnes   Tunstall   
1876 BOOTH   Joseph              Tunstall   
1877 BOOTH   William            Stone

Agnes Elizabeth Booth widow of Wolstanton Staffordshire died 16 June 1917
Probate 21 march to Sarah Victoria Booth spinster & William Booth hay merchant
Effects £181 12s. 5d.

By the 1891 census the family have moved again, to Uttoxeter in Staffs, but Jane (now aged 20) is no longer at home.

1891c Booth family
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W3GJ-9PZ
Edward 45 , Agnes E 34, Jennie 18, Victoria 16, Joseph 13, William 12

Did they make a mistake with the daughter's name Jennie and her father Edward's age?

Is this the same Booth family on 1901 census if so who is Jamie?

1901 RG13; Piece: 2592; Folio: 46; Page: 34
Edward BOOTH 72 Tunstall corn  dealer, wife Agnes 55,
Jamie 30 , Victoria 28 , Joseph 25 & Wm 23

Have you checked 1911 census ?

not sure if this is the same Booth family because of their ages from 1901 census

Agnes 62 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-66T
William 26 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-66Y
Jane 30 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-66B
Victoria 28 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-661

[eddiebooth]

Hi Ladyhawk.
Im trying to pin down my Jane Elizabeth Booth but feel like Ive hit a brick wall.
I know she was born in England and that she was unmarried. I know she went by the name Lizzie and that she was in Belfast in 1900 and 1901.
At this stage I dont know if she left Edward Maurice Booth with Rose Ann Gribben and returned to her home in England, or if she died and Rose 'adopted' the child.

Any ideas where I can continue looking, Im going round in circles

[eddiebooth]

I have a Jane Elizabeth Booth (Lizzie), born England 1870/71, possibly in Staffordshire.
In 1900 she has a child in Belfast,  Edward Maurice (or Morris) Booth
1901 she is still in Belfast according to 1901 census.
By 1911 census child is adopted and Jane Elizabeth (Lizzie) gone.

Im thinking she may have been sent away (to Belfast) pregnant,  possibly returning after the birth.  Either that or she dies between 1901 and 1911.

Are there any records of movement between England and Ireland then (I doubt it) or can anyone help or suggest where I can look now?

[eddiebooth]

Hi Ladyhawk

Jane Elizabeth Booth, b June 1870, St Geo in the East (Now Stepney, London). Found her in Free BMD but not the 1871 census in the London area. Possible her family lived elsewhere, or she died pre-census 1871

Wondering if this might be the above JEB born c 1870 St George in the East

1871 RG10; Piece: 530; Folio: 34; Page: 5
BOOTH
Henry 32 Lambeth Carpenter & joiner
Sarah 25 Southwark
Sarah 5 Bermondsey
Ellen 2 St George in the East, Surrey
JANE 1 dittoed

1881 RG11; Piece: 472; Folio: 86; Page: 46
Henry Booth Carpenter, Sarah
Sarah 15, JANE 11, Anne 6, Henry 5 & Sophia 2

Jane BOOTH age 19 father Henry Carpenter (dec’d)
married James Pearce on 15 Oct 1888 at St Mary Spital Square

Jane & James Pearce witnessed her sister Annie Elizabeth Booth’s marriage to Frederick Harvey

Jane Booth, no dob but christened on 16/09/1870 in Tunstall, Wolstanton Nr Stoke, Staffs.

This one is interesting as her father is Edward Booth and her mother Agnes Elizabeth.

In the 1881 census the family have moved to Stone, Staffs.

still digging

Is the the 1881 census you are referring too?    Yes it is

1881 RG11; Piece: 2693; Folio: 52; Page: 8
Walton Hill House
Edward BOOTH 43 Biddulph  Farmer 98 Acres Employs 3 Men & 1 Boy,wife Agnes 32,
JANE 10 Tunstall, Sarah V 8, Joseph 4, William 3

Marriage (FreeBMD)
1869 Wolstanton
Edward Booth
name on same page
Agnes Elizabeth Tellwright

1869 Mow Cop, St Thomas (Staffordshire BMD)
BOOTH   Edward   
TELLWRIGHT   Agnes E   

2 June The will with two Codicils of William Tellwright formerly of the Beeches but late of March Cottage both in Wolstanton. Died 15 April 1885 proved at the Prinicipal Registry by William Anthony Marsden Tellwright, son  of Beeches Colliery Proprietor & Edward BOOTH, Farmer of Walton Hill House Stone two of the Exexcutors, Personal Estate £5,523 17s. 7d.

from Staffordshire BMD mother's maiden name TELLWRIGHT
1870 BOOTH   Jane                   Tunstall   
1872 BOOTH   Sarah Victoria   Tunstall   
1874 BOOTH   Mary Agnes   Tunstall   
1876 BOOTH   Joseph              Tunstall   
1877 BOOTH   William            Stone

Agnes Elizabeth Booth widow of Wolstanton Staffordshire died 16 June 1917
Probate 21 march to Sarah Victoria Booth spinster & William Booth hay merchant
Effects £181 12s. 5d.

By the 1891 census the family have moved again, to Uttoxeter in Staffs, but Jane (now aged 20) is no longer at home.

1891c Booth family
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W3GJ-9PZ
Edward 45 , Agnes E 34, Jennie 18, Victoria 16, Joseph 13, William 12

Did they make a mistake with the daughter's name Jennie and her father Edward's age? Im pretty sure 'Jennie' is 'Jane' and mother should be 44, not 34

Is this the same Booth family on 1901 census if so who is Jamie?  I think this is the same, 'Jamie' probably an error, but if it is Jane then unlikely to be the Jane Im after as she was in Belfast Census in March 1901. Edwards age is out, should be c55 years but occupation matches 1891 census

1901 RG13; Piece: 2592; Folio: 46; Page: 34
Edward BOOTH 72 Tunstall corn  dealer, wife Agnes 55,
Jamie 30 , Victoria 28 , Joseph 25 & Wm 23

Have you checked 1911 census ?

not sure if this is the same Booth family because of their ages from 1901 census The ages on these census's seem to be all over the place, is that usual?

Agnes 62 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-66T
William 26 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-66Y
Jane 30 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-66B
Victoria 28 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW73-661

[eddiebooth]

Update

Edward Maurice Booth
As I cannot find any other Booth born around the right time (03/02/1900), I am coming round to the likelihood that Edward Maurice Booth may be my GF.

This in turn points to Jane Elizabeth Booth, his mother, being my GGM. The 1901 Belfast census states that she was born in England. Her birth date would fall between Apr 1870 and Mar 1871.
This would actually fit in with what my mother told me, that the Booths heralded from Staffordshire.
Looking at the 1871 census for England and at Free BMD, there are a number of possiblities, but 3 stand out.

Jane Elizabeth Booth, b June 1870, St Geo in the East (Now Stepney, London). Found her in Free BMD but not the 1871 census in the London area. Possible her family lived elsewhere, or she died pre-census 1871 This Jane married in 1888, so surname would then be Pearce

Jane Booth, b1871, Leek, Staffs - no mention of her living anywhere other than Leek, and her death in 1921 is in Leek as well

Jane Booth, no dob but christened on 16/09/1870 in Tunstall, Wolstanton Nr Stoke, Staffs.
This one is interesting as her father is Edward Booth and her mother Agnes Elizabeth. In the 1881 census the family have moved to Stone, Staffs. By the 1891 census the family have moved again, to Uttoxeter in Staffs, but Jane (now aged 20) is no longer at home.

still digging

Still no record I can find of this Jane returning to her family, or her death. She may have died in Belfast between 1901-1911 and left Edward with Rose Gribben, or she may have returned to England and left the child behind