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Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« on: Monday 18 January 16 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Looking for any information on Abraham WOLIS (later WALLIS) and Josephine BIBERFELD from Warsaw, who arrived in Manchester, England c 1890. I have UK census details. Thanks.
BRE: Price, Williams
CMN: Lewis, Smith, Coslet, Morris
GLA: Glasbrook, Lewis (of Gorseinon)
GLS: Wooles, Phelps, Beard, Broadstock, Burgum, Prothero
HUN: Bird, Chester, Dunmore, King, Read
MON: Wooles
ERY: Smith, Bell, Woolf, Sutton
USA (Utah): Read (Smithfield), Lewis (Goshen); Kansas: Lewis
AUST (Victoria): Lewis

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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 January 16 18:35 GMT (UK) »
You have not given details of their respective birthyears

Did they arrive as a married couple - meaning they married outside England - or did they marry in England?

If you have them in 1911 - how many years do they say they have been married?
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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 January 16 10:14 GMT (UK) »
According to the C1901 and C1911 they were  both Warsaw residents, and had been married for 27 years. They were married in and produced several children in Warsaw, arriving in M/c about 1891.  Calculating their birthyears from the census they were both born around 1866. C1901 shows Josephine's father Abraham living with them. Apologies, I should have included this info.
BRE: Price, Williams
CMN: Lewis, Smith, Coslet, Morris
GLA: Glasbrook, Lewis (of Gorseinon)
GLS: Wooles, Phelps, Beard, Broadstock, Burgum, Prothero
HUN: Bird, Chester, Dunmore, King, Read
MON: Wooles
ERY: Smith, Bell, Woolf, Sutton
USA (Utah): Read (Smithfield), Lewis (Goshen); Kansas: Lewis
AUST (Victoria): Lewis

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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 January 16 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately, incoming shipping lists were not kept for ships sailing from Europe into UK ports.

I think Abraham Wolis' father may have been a Louis. Here is a 1901
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/issue/11357/page/1313/data.pdf

and census records for Louis/Lewis and family:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q5H7-BT2
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9VV-LQY

Louis/Lewis died in 1908, and you can find his burial mentioned here:
http://www.mdcs.org.uk/home.aspx
 (payment for full info).

I would recommend you focus on Jewish genealogy sources in Manchester and surrounds and try and confirm who the extended family were - there also seems to be a possible brother for Josephine, Gustav.
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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for this Jorose.  I have looked at this family several times, and - because of the similarities in names of children - been convinced that there was a connection. I thought maybe Abraham's brother, but now tend towards his father.  I'll follow up the MDCS link.

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BRE: Price, Williams
CMN: Lewis, Smith, Coslet, Morris
GLA: Glasbrook, Lewis (of Gorseinon)
GLS: Wooles, Phelps, Beard, Broadstock, Burgum, Prothero
HUN: Bird, Chester, Dunmore, King, Read
MON: Wooles
ERY: Smith, Bell, Woolf, Sutton
USA (Utah): Read (Smithfield), Lewis (Goshen); Kansas: Lewis
AUST (Victoria): Lewis

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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 April 16 20:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am from the biberfield family and have some further information about the biberfield Family.

I think we may be related, how can I contact you?

Marc

I am from the abraham biberfield side who then had children wallis, max, gustave etc
Does this link with your tree?

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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 April 16 15:32 BST (UK) »
jettzz@gmail.com

Salt what is your email address?

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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 April 16 17:01 BST (UK) »
Hi mczite ,

We are not allowed to display email  addresses and personal information in replies. Once you have made 3 posts you should be able to send salt a private message and can then exchange email addresses privately if you both wish.

Good luck
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Re: Wolis and Biberfeld families from Warsaw
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 April 16 17:05 BST (UK) »
Hi sorry about that.

The system wouldn't let me have more than 1 private message in my account.

I think you should try and change that as it does not really let the site be so productive, especially if you'd prefer to keep people within the website.

As a website designer myself thats quite a major flaw.

As the immediate thing people would try and do is connect and if they can't here they can go elsewhere.