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NZ death certificate question - ***COMPLETED WITH THANKS***
« on: Sunday 24 January 16 06:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi all...

If it were the case, would "Suicide" be written in the "Cause of Death" entry.

Or is there another term used.

Thanks
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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 January 16 06:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Beg,

Not really sure what our one's put on for "Suicide", but I read/heard somewhere "Death by Misadventure" is a term used.  Will be interesting to see what others have to say on this.


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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 January 16 06:53 GMT (UK) »
Hello Beg,

I have a 1964 death registration-

"Acute barbiturate poisoning after having committed suicide by taking an overdose of barbiturates".

Couldn't be more explicit........ :(

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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 January 16 07:50 GMT (UK) »
January 1973

Coroner's finding:Carbon monoxide poisoning due to the inhalation of coal gas,death being self inflicted.


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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 January 16 08:08 GMT (UK) »
And going back a bit......

1893.

"Suicide by strychnine while deranged".

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 January 16 08:24 GMT (UK) »
on my son's death certificate in 2005 it has subject to Coroner's findings, and on the coroner's report it has Asphyxia when he intentionally took his life by hanging.


I haven't yet bought the updated Death Certificate so have the original one, I must get round to it  :)

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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 January 16 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your answers.

All the best
Beg

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Re: NZ death certificate question
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 January 16 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello.

From my experience it will tend to be influenced by the medical report received by the Coroner, and his/her determination of the pertinent facts upon his in-chambers findings [cut and dried] or Coroner's court hearing. I've [greater family] been involved in a number of cases referred to the Coroner.

Either way it will be a brief CLINICAL statement of fact, as determined by the Coroner.

As today, upwards [from memory] of $6,000 of ACC death cover will hang upon the Coroner's findings, I know of at least one case where an additional comment was made by the Coroner, "that no evidence was found that the cause of death was intentional".

To the family involved, the facts they became aware of, we laymen would have said death by mis-adventure. When the Coroner's office experienced a month's delay in getting the ruling signed off, the Trustee complained, and pointed out that the Undertaker's costs were pending. The Trustee was advised that the draft ruling awaiting signature/s read death by XXX a very brief clinical description of the actual death. The Court Registrar being spoken to, then offered to ask the Coroner to be specific about "believed intent" and the above [or words to that effect] were added the signed off ruling.

The Trustee was then able to apply for the ACC accidental death funds. No funding if deemed suicide.

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Re: NZ death certificate question - ***COMPLETED WITH THANKS***
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 January 16 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello Alan...

Thank you for the reply. It was most informative.

I'm helping a friend look into her grandfather's death. There is a family story that he deliberately jumped out of the window of a high-rise building. As no-one in her family will talk about it she wondered if a death certificate would help.

I will pass on to her a link to this thread.

All the best
Beg