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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 January 16 04:39 GMT (UK) »
Agh, follow up from Debra's work

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14488435 SMH 10 Dec 1902 

McINNIS.-December 6, at his late residence; 84 Pitt Street, Waterloo, John Mclnnis, late of Taree Estate, Manning River, aged 77. At rest.

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 January 16 05:20 GMT (UK) »

The obit for Donald is in the paper 6 June 1947..........in his 80th year. It would fit Donald, and possibly this family -

All registered Maitland......all parents John / Mary

5689/1856  MCGINNES          Duncan
8712/1858  MCGUINNESS      Flora A
 8940/1858  MCINNIS            John
 8932/1861  MCINNES           James
 9255/1863  MCINNES           Catherine
 10583/1865  MCINNES         Alexander
 10394/1865  MCGUINNESS   Catherine
 11456/1867  MCINNES         Donald   ( b. 4 Jul 1867)
 13400/1869  MCINNES         Myles
 12186/1872  MCINNES         Angus
 13369/1874  MCINNES         Margaret
14170/1876  MCINNES           Mary
 15483/1878  MCINNES          Hugh
 

...but mother Mary d. 1903 would need to be younger than 80 years old given in the death notice.

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #11 on: Friday 29 January 16 06:31 GMT (UK) »
.... and Catherine was born c1857.

This might be brother John:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/172278839

Death of Hugh McINNES

Death of Mr. Hugh McInnes - On Tuesday last, Mrs. Bignell, of Taree, received the sad intelligence by telegram of the death of her brother, Mr. Hugh Mclnnes, of Leichhardt, who died that morning from appendicitis in the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital. An operation had been successfully performed, but Mr. Mclnnes took a turn for the worse. He leaves a widow and five children . The news came as quite a shock, as it was not known here that Mr. Mclnnes was ill. The deceased, who was 36 years of age, served his apprenticeship in the old Advocate Office at Wingham, and up till about two years ago was editing a paper on the Richmond River, where he had been connected with press and printing matters at Lismore and Ballina. From there he went to Leichhardt, where he purchased a job printing office, which he was conducting up to the time of his death. He was a son of the late Mr. John Mclnnes, who for 25 years resided on Taree Estate. Mrs. Bignell, of Taree, was deceased's only sister, but he had several brothers, viz., Allan, who is at present in South Africa ; Angus and Alec., both in Sydney ; John and James, of Laurieton ; and Daniel, of the Clarence. He was also an uncle of Mrs. H. H. Kirton, of Taree. This is the second death in the family during the past few weeks, and much sympathy is felt for the bereaved relatives.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/172824126

11674/1870
MACINNIS,   ALLAN
Parents: JOHN &   MARY MCPHERSON
MANNING RIVER

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #12 on: Friday 29 January 16 06:51 GMT (UK) »
NSW ER 1903  COWPER polling at Taree
BIGNELL
Charlotte, of Taree, domestic duties
Herbert Joseph, of Taree, agent
Kate, of Taree, dressmaker.

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #13 on: Friday 29 January 16 06:59 GMT (UK) »
Sands Directory 1920

John McINNES, grazier, Jones' Island.
Herbert BIGNELL 55 Military Road, Neutral Bay.

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 30 January 16 00:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi majm and Dundee, Thanks for the wealth of information that you have sent through.
My main problem is that either the obituary on Donald McInnes in the Townsville Bulletin 9/6/1947 where it is stated that Donald is one of eleven(11) children - ten sons and one daughter or children to John and Mary were born outside N.S.W. My searches reveal 7 boys and 3 girls recorded under Maitland - 1861 James, 1863 Catherine, 1865 Alexander, 1867 Donald ( possible grandfather), 1869 Myles, 1872 Angus, 1874 Margaret, 1876 Mary, 1878 Hugh and 1880 John William and under Manning River only 2 boys - 1864 Alexander and 1866 Angus.

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 January 16 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

NSW Civil Birth registrations commenced back in 1856.   If you were to seek out an official transcription of the likely youngest, OR at least for the likely Donald, then you should expect to learn details about not just the baby whose birth is being registered, but about his parents, (their then ages, where they were born, married, Dad's occupation, usual address etc) but also about the older brothers/sisters of the baby being registered.  (Often their names and ages if alive at the time, and at least the gender and possibly the ages of any babies who had already succumbed).

Obits can of course have flawed info, perhaps the reporter mis-heard, or mis-read the notes taken, or perhaps the grieving family member providing the info to the newspaper reporter was relying on memory and distracted by other family members needing to be comforted. 

NOT ALL civil registrations from rural districts were received or fully processed at the Registrar Generals Offices in Sydney.   There was no formal 'follow up' in that era if a quarterly return to the Sydney HQ was not received, or not processed.  Post WWI the system became more formalised.

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 31 January 16 02:47 GMT (UK) »

4200/1903
MACINNIS, MARY
Father: ARCHIBALD
WATERLOO

Debra  :)

I think it likely that Mary McINNES's (nee McPHERSON) mother's name was Margaret.
There are a number of newspaper references to  Archibald. Here are some in connection to the marriages of his children.

On Thursday, the 16th February, at St. Bridgets, Raymond Terrace, by the Rev. T. A. Lonergan, Alexander, second son of John McDonald, Four-Mile Creek, to Flora Ann, youngest daughter of Mr. Archibald McPherson.

The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Saturday 4 March 1871

In 1863
GOSLING—McPHERSON—On the 4th May, at Sydney, by the Rev. Dr. Fullerton, Mr. Edward Gosling, to Jessie, eldest daughter of Mr.Archibald McPherson.

 
Marriage
December the 7th, by special license, at St. Bridget's, Raymond Terrace, by the Rev. P. J. O'Quinlian, Alexander Brilliant, fourth son of Archibald McPherson, Miller's Forest, to Emily Adline, second daughter of James Bignell, Bandon Grove.

 
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser   Saturday 21 December 1867

Interesting to note it appears his niece Catherine, daughter of Mary McINNES, also married a BIGNELL

Deaths.
 Died, 11th June, at Miller's Forest, Margaret, the beloved wife of Archibald McPherson, aged 88 years, leaving a family and a large circle of friends and relations. Dearly beloved by all who knew her.
18th June 1885. Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser.

Index of the death
8050/1886  MCPHERSON Margaret
Father JAMES
Died The Clarence
MACLEAN

In Memoriam a couple of years later-
In loving remembrance of my dear mother, Mrs. Archibald
McPherson, who died 11th June, 1885, at Miller's Forest.
 Dear mother, how I miss thy face
When darkening shades appear; ……………etc.
  Inserted by her loving daughter, F. A. Macdonald
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser   Saturday 11 June 1887

Died, 7th July, at Miller's Forest, Archibald McPherson, aged 95 years, leaving a family and a large circle of friends and relations. Dearly beloved by all who knew him.
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser   Saturday 23 July 1887

An Obituary
  Mr. Archibald McPherson, one of the oldest Residents of Miller's Forrest, passed away to the     silent majority yesterday evening. He had attained the good     age of 95 years. Up to within a few days of his Death he was well able to get about. He leaves perhaps the greatest number of Relations belonging to one Family in the District to mourn their loss. He was ever a kind father & true Husband & leaves this World of woe without a stain on his character. His remains were Interred to-day (Friday).   RAYMOND TERRACE, 8th July, 1887.        
                     
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser  Saturday 9 July 1887

This looks like Archibald arriving-
Index to Persons on Government ships Aug 1837-Feb 1840
   
 McPHERSON Archibald. Aged 36. Ship Brilliant.. Date 24/01/1838. Pg 037. Reel 2654. Item [4/4780]

And his wife included here
Index to Miscellaneous Immigrants
     
Ship Brilliant    Name MCPHERSON Archibald. Aged 36. Date 24/01/1838. Reel 2654. Pg 37 Item [4/4780]. Remarks Wife 35; farm servant. Series NRS 5313   

Index to deceased estates-
MCPHERSON   Archibald Locality Millers Forest. Date   07/07/1887. Date duty paid 19/09/1888.Item [19/10184];Reel  [20/3025      
 

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Re: Donald McInnes from Taree. NSW
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 31 January 16 05:22 GMT (UK) »
..... and under Manning River only 2 boys - 1864 Alexander and 1866 Angus.

I can see Archibald (1862), Alexander (1864), Angus (1866), Hugh (1868), and Allan (1870).

Unfortunately it isn't as easy as just looking up the indexes and finding every child and I suspect that the Maitland family is not connected to the Manning River family.

As we know that Catherine had brothers Hugh, Allan, and Donald in Townsville I would be getting either of her parents death certs for a list of children and their ages and to also confirm the McPHERSON name.

Debra  :)