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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Oh, and not sure how relevant it is but you mentioned that they were "Riddled with Clergymen."
Charlotte's husband, Thomas Fullwood's father Robert, and grandfather Avery were both parish clerks of Snitterfield, Robert taking the job at Easter 1743 after Avery died in Feb 1742. It's on the parish marriage record page for Snitterfield.
Dennington, Riley, Brede, Taylor, Cheeseman, Key: London & Middlesex;
Brede, Bryan: Northamptonshire, London
Hines: Tipperary & London
Fullwood:Warwickshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire, London, Norfolk.

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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 18:17 GMT (UK) »
JP. Thanks so much for looking at the will, i seem to be having trouble searching for it even though David provided the reference 1701/47. I just get zero results, not sure what i'm doing wrong. I've only just seen your results, i'll digest them tonight, thanks again.

You won't find it online - the reference is as used by Beds Archives & published in a 2 volume set of Bedfordshire Probate Records 1484-1858 that David & myself have. The actual wills are available to view in Beds Archives searchroom in Bedford. 
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Partridge - North Beds; Northants & Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Ah, that explains it, thanks John.
Dennington, Riley, Brede, Taylor, Cheeseman, Key: London & Middlesex;
Brede, Bryan: Northamptonshire, London
Hines: Tipperary & London
Fullwood:Warwickshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire, London, Norfolk.

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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Oh, and not sure how relevant it is but you mentioned that they were "Riddled with Clergymen."
Charlotte's husband, Thomas Fullwood's father Robert, and grandfather Avery were both parish clerks of Snitterfield, Robert taking the job at Easter 1743 after Avery died in Feb 1742. It's on the parish marriage record page for Snitterfield.

The Holdens all seem to have been clergymen!

If Charlotte really was a Holden, which seems likely if you follow the property, they look to be an interesting family to research.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 08:44 GMT (UK) »
I've found what appears to be the marriage at St Dunstan in the West, City of London, on 21 Aug 1651 "John Wattson gent and Frances Archer were marryed"

Found this via Google... you may already know.... but ..

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BEDFORD/2002-09/1033239810

...and...

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ARCHER-UK/2006-08/1155860210

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Partridge - North Beds; Northants & Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John, no, I hadn't seen those. The poster seems to be the same lady referred to in post #8 below.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 10:58 GMT (UK) »
OK... now I've set my sort order to show latest first I can find reply #8 below !

AU = Andrew Underwood was in the Ampthill local history society & died within the past few years, & left his collection to Beds Archives.... If you search using AU as reference & Watson as name, you'll find other entries, one being a rough family tree of George Watson, going back four generations to John Watson of Carlisle
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Partridge - North Beds; Northants & Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 13:08 GMT (UK) »
In my info on the will of George Watson I mention the minister of Sawley, a Mr Colvive??

Further sleuthing has determined this name is COLIERE or COLEIRE

FreeReg marriage in Weston on Trent, Derbys - 25 Oct 1702
Richard Coliere, fellow of All Saints College, Oxford to Frances Holden, widow

He is listed in Oxford University Alumni as per Ancestry
He is son of Walter, gent of London

FreeReg marriage in Sawley, Derbys - 2 Sept 1742
Charles Armstrong, bachelor of Ampthill, Beds, gent to Elizabeth Coleire, spinster, father Francis Coleire, curate of Sawley

Philamores marriages in Wanlip, Leics - 31 May 1708
Francis Coleire, clerk of Sawley to Christian Holden of Weston, Derbys
 
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Partridge - North Beds; Northants & Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Meppershall Manor, occupants or owners
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am interested in this thread as my ancestors were Frances Watson nee Archer and so was Rebecca and Edward Holden.Elizabeth Emery nee Archer was Frances' sister who married Richard Emery.I have Frances's will,I do not know about Charlotte though.