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Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« on: Saturday 30 January 16 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Good evening. I was wondering if anyone can throw light on my husband's great grandfather, William Sandland. William's baptism was recorded as being in January 1840,Whitchurch,parents, Robert and Maria Sandland. I know that official birth registration started towards the end of 1837 but I cannot find a birth entry for William, its siblings after him are registered but no sign of him. I want to order the birth certificate but cannot due to no matches. Thank you. Carybeth  ???

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Re: Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 January 16 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Good evening. I was wondering if anyone can throw light on my husband's great grandfather, William Sandland. William's baptism was recorded as being in January 1840,Whitchurch,parents, Robert and Maria Sandland. I know that official birth registration started towards the end of 1837 but I cannot find a birth entry for William, its siblings after him are registered but no sign of him. I want to order the birth certificate but cannot due to no matches. Thank you. Carybeth  ???

Although official registration started in 1837, people weren't fined for non registration until much later. A lot of people were confused and believed that a baptism was the same thing, so didn't register their child.

"In the early days of the system, it was up to each local registrar to find out what births, marriages and deaths had taken place in his sub-district. It has therefore been estimated that only about 50-60% of births, both legitimate and illegitimate, were registered as parents were not legally obliged to inform the registrar. It has been estimated that in some parts of England up to 15% of births were not registered between 1837 and 1875"   From Wikipedia
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Re: Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 January 16 22:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Could he have been older at Baptism? 

If you check FreeBMD there is this one... note, appears to be twins, so maybe Thomas died and they waited until they were sure William would survive??

Birth Reg
Dec Quarter 1838
Newport (Salop)

SANDLAND
Thomas Vol 18 page 120
William Vol 18 page 119


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Re: Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 January 16 23:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Could he have been older at Baptism? 

If you check FreeBMD there is this one... note, appears to be twins, so maybe Thomas died and they waited until they were sure William would survive??

Birth Reg
Dec Quarter 1838
Newport (Salop)

SANDLAND
Thomas Vol 18 page 120
William Vol 18 page 119


Cheers
Karenlee

Hi Karen

I did follow up the William Sandland (Newport) but he isn't my husband's great grandfather. Thanks for replying.

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Re: Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 January 16 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi I agree, the William Sandland in 1841 with Robert and Maria is aged 5 months
Census Ref HO107/903/ 6/12/ 17
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Re: Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 January 16 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, his sister Ann's baptism was 24th August 1838 and Ann aged 2 on 1841, I also cannot locate a registration for her also.
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Re: Whitchurch-Sandland 1839 birth entry missing
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 January 16 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Good afternoon,apologies I put the wrong year of baptism,should have been January 1841



Hi I agree, the William Sandland in 1841 with Robert and Maria is aged 5 months
Census Ref HO107/903/ 6/12/ 17
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