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Offline Suzy W

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why money was exchanged when it is was marriage
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 01:36 GMT (UK) »
This was written in 1743, but I have no idea why money was exchanged when it is was marriage.  Any ideas please
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TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 01:50 GMT (UK) »
No idea either SuzyW, but as you say it was connected to a marriage, do you think it possibly refers to a dowry?  Just a thought!
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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 02:10 GMT (UK) »
500 pounds in 1740's was a large amount of money, crumbs I hope she was worth it ;D.
Very strange to have all that listed on the marriage
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 03:30 GMT (UK) »
The other half of the page
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add


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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 04:19 GMT (UK) »
Really still no idea, but I wonder if this could be some sort of dispensation granted between a Catholic and Protestant to allow them to marry, and there was a cost involved, payable to the Priest, by one of the parties.  But as I said, really no idea, is just of the top of my head.

Where did you source the record from, might give a clue.

I'm sure someone with a much better knowledge is sure to turn up with a better theory than mine!😄
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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 05:52 GMT (UK) »
It looks very similar to the Marriage Bonds and Allegations of Durham Diocese 1692-1900, on the Family Search website.

Had a look at one at random from 1809 between Walton Reay bachelor and Dorothy Ann Leaton spinster at a cost of £200, put up by Walton Reay and her father John Leaton.

As I say, it looks very similar, but £500 in 1740's was a huge cost. £200 in 1809 was still a large amount of money.

Hope it helps

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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 08:13 GMT (UK) »
As I understand it, the £500 would only have to be paid if the marriage did not take place.

A Bond and Allegation was only used in conjunction with a Marriage Licence, which meant that the couple did not have/wish to wait for the Banns to be read over 3 consecutive weeks.

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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 08:44 GMT (UK) »
It is the same as the 1733 Marriage Bond at  http://anguline.co.uk/cert/allbon.html
As said the marriage would be by a Common/Ordinary Licence - This could be obtained from any bishop or archbishop, Chancellor or Surrogate, and meant the Banns need not be read - and so there was not the minimum delay of two weeks.
A visit to the clergyman issuing the licence resulted in three documents, an allegation or affidavit, a marriage bond and the licence. Bonds were a very common legal device. By entering into a bond a person would agree for instance that a statement was true, for a marriage  that there was no "lawful let or impediment" to the proposed marriage. If this was not the case  a penalty was due to the church official concerned, if the marriage did not take place the bond was irrelevant. A marriage bond would mention the two people who wanted to get married, not just one.  By the late 18th Century the penalty was £200. I would expect that they would not have to prove they had the money. After 1823 bonds ceased to be necessary.
You can see examples of a Marriage Bond, Allegation, and Licence at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,438148.msg3016813.html#msg3016813
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Re: What does this mean
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Suzy, I knew someone with more knowledge about this sort of record would soon come to your rescue.

I read somewhere a long time ago, that marriages by licence were usually for upper class people, and if there was a need or request for a hasty marriage, without having to have banns read.

But that may well  be something else that's in my head!  😄😄
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