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Re: Canavore
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Portland Street, Manchester, 1861 (RG9/2943 Folio 114 Page 6) has some of the Sanger family in 'travelling carriages', so possibly worth checking nearby.
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Re: Canavore
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 15:22 GMT (UK) »
1861 Edward Kerwin b 1839 Manchester listed as Equestrian  living a lodger in Manchester RG 9 Piece 2944 Folio 111 Page 33

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Looking for his birth.
The closest that I can find is:
 Edward KIRWAN b Mar 1839 Manchester

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 17:15 GMT (UK) »
I think I know why Eliza and her son were on the 1871 census as lodgers.
She is described as married.
Note: she is entered as age 21. Same age she married at 5yrs earlier??

At this time, Sangers Circus was travelling in the US.
Massachussets, Rhode Island and Connecticut.

Will check US papers later for any sign of the elusive husband

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your replies. Its amazing what you have found. I will look up all you have told me and report back.

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 04 February 16 10:05 GMT (UK) »
I had a good browse of US newspapers.
Although there are loads of Adverts and a good few articles, I found nothing of any relevance to Edwin/Edward.
This tour was a travelling menagerie rather that a show production.
They travelled all over New England and Pennsylvania

Mercian found that he already has access to all the British newspapers and has since located all the articles posted here relating to Edwin/Edward and Rosa/Eliza

EDIT:
I forgot to say That the birth that I found for Edward Kirwan 1839 in Manchester looks to be correct
His mother's name is listed as: WEST
Mother's name on the 1866 marriage cert says: Mary West

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 04 February 16 16:47 GMT (UK) »
I do wonder if this baptism might relate to a sibling of Edward/Edwin??  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5LJ-STX

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 04 February 16 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Edward and family on 1851 census, can anyone see original of this:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKK9-X6K1 
The child is 'illegible' but the father is John and the mother is Mary, born Plymouth which caught my eye as that's where Rose/Eliza was lodging on the 1871 census, might be a red herring though.

I've drawn a blank looking for Rose/Eliza with Frederick and/or Edward on the 1881 census or Edward on the 1871 ... anyone any luck? 

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Re: Canavore
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 04 February 16 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Does look like it Kay99.
Hampshire in 1833 then Manchester in 1839?
Perhaps they were travelling too?

Something that did strike me about the Sangers Hippodrome Advert in Dundee of Dec 1865.
Most male performers were listed as "Mr" but Edwin/Edward and one other male were billed as:
"Monsieur"
When I first saw the marriage cert, I read it as Canavore (as in Canavo..ray) and thought it could be italian.
Now I wonder if Canavor was  the French  version of Kerwin/Kirwan etc