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Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« on: Saturday 06 February 16 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I would be really interested to find out if my grandmother's brother and sister who emigrated to Australia - separately - in the 1920's have any living relatives. 

Their parents were Peter McLeod and Christina (nee Reith).

John McLeod.  Born Newport, Fife on 6th January 1906.  Departed from London to Melbourne on 15th January 1924 aboard the MORETON BAY with his occupation given as Labourer.  The only Australian record I have found online is an index of his Army Service Record from 1939-1948 which spells his last name as Macleod and confirms his wife's name as Beryl - about the only fact that we already knew.  The place of enlistment was Esperance, WA - something of a surprise as the family story was that he settled in Townsville!  I have ordered this from the National Archives but as the status is "not yet examined" it may not be available for 90 days.

Jane (or Jean) McLeod. Born Newport, Fife on 17th June 1903.  Departed from London to Melbourne on 24th May 1928 aboard the SS BERRIMA intending to settle in Australia and we are fairly certain that she did. Her occupation was given as a Typist.  We don't know where she lived or whether or not she married and had children.

If any kind person out there in RootsChat land can offer and help or guidance it would be greatly appreciated.  I have researched most other branches quite extensively but until now this has been a genealogical "black hole"!

Thank you in advance.

Gill

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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 February 16 03:52 GMT (UK) »
Looks like John & Beryl made their way to Townsville; they went to Queensland sometime between 1954 and 1963:

1949 & 1954 - Electoral Rolls, Dundas, Kalgoorlie, WA
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, Esperance, Home Duties
John MacLEOD, Esperance, Labourer

1963 - Electoral Roll, Ross, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 36 McLean St, Home Duties
John MacLEOD, 36 McLean St, Foreman

1968 - Electoral Roll, Ross, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Home Duties
John MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Gulliver, Foreman

1972 & 1977 - Electoral Roll, Currajong, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, HD
John MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, Foreman

1980 - Electoral Roll, Currajong, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, HD
John MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, _______

and earlier:
1936 & 1937 - Electoral Rolls, Kalgoorlie, Kalgoorlie, WA
Beryl Nerissa GIBBS, 15 Boulder Rd, Milliner


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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 February 16 05:27 GMT (UK) »
I will send a PM to the OP with information about a 1939 marriage that I can find online in the Reverse Western Australia Marriage Index.   WA marriage certificates are very detailed, but also are expensive.
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/
http://www.wamarriage.info/

Here's the "How To" thread for the Australia Board.   There are likely to be privacy issues in anyone seeking out living descendants particularly for living Australians.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368728.0

I would be really interested to find out if my grandmother's brother and sister who emigrated to Australia - separately - in the 1920's have any living relatives.  ....

Cheers,  JM



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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 February 16 05:51 GMT (UK) »
Here is the WWII nominal roll for a chap in the Royal Australian Air Force.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/VeteranCertificate.aspx?VeteranID=926421


Here is another WWII nominal roll for a chap in the Royal Australian Air Force.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=837389

It seems possible that there’s two chaps with same name, same date of birth, and same name for next of kin.   Different place of birth, and different place of enlistment.

The National Archives of Australia website has separate (not yet examined) files for each of these two RAAF chaps.   It will be interesting if it turns out to be just one chap.

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 February 16 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Dear JM

Many thanks for your very quick and interesting replies - much appreciated.

Dundee and Newport are at either end of the Tay Bridge so it is the same person!  (His father was Signalman at Wormit Station on the south side for many years).

Cheers,
Gill



Here is the WWII nominal roll for a chap in the Royal Australian Air Force.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/VeteranCertificate.aspx?VeteranID=926421


Here is another WWII nominal roll for a chap in the Royal Australian Air Force.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=837389

It seems possible that there’s two chaps with same name, same date of birth, and same name for next of kin.   Different place of birth, and different place of enlistment.

The National Archives of Australia website has separate (not yet examined) files for each of these two RAAF chaps.   It will be interesting if it turns out to be just one chap.

Cheers,  JM

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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 February 16 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Dear Ambly

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this information - once again RootsChat members exceed all expectations!

Having their occupations and Beryl's maiden name is a bonus - I didn't know if she was Scottish or Australian but the latter is looking more probable. 

Would any children living at home be added when they reached 18/21?

Cheers,
Gill

Looks like John & Beryl made their way to Townsville; they went to Queensland sometime between 1954 and 1963:

1949 & 1954 - Electoral Rolls, Dundas, Kalgoorlie, WA
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, Esperance, Home Duties
John MacLEOD, Esperance, Labourer

1963 - Electoral Roll, Ross, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 36 McLean St, Home Duties
John MacLEOD, 36 McLean St, Foreman

1968 - Electoral Roll, Ross, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Home Duties
John MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Gulliver, Foreman

1972 & 1977 - Electoral Roll, Currajong, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, HD
John MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, Foreman

1980 - Electoral Roll, Currajong, Herbert, Queensland
Beryl Nerissa MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, HD
John MacLEOD, 16 MacDonald St, Tville 4810, _______

and earlier:
1936 & 1937 - Electoral Rolls, Kalgoorlie, Kalgoorlie, WA
Beryl Nerissa GIBBS, 15 Boulder Rd, Milliner


Cheers
AMBLY

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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 February 16 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gill,

If any children were born & did reach their age of majority and still live at home, you would expect them to be on the Rolls with their parents.  Unfortunately I found no other MacLeod with them on any of those Rolls.

The presumption is that her surname is GIBBS - however, maybe it could be previous married name? On the two Rolls I found her on, there were no other GIBBS at the same address.

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Records of Great Aunt and Uncle who emigrated to Australia in the 1920's
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 February 16 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the additional information.

John would have been 33 when he married in 1939 and then of course he was in the forces for some years so it is quite possible that there weren't any children.

As it is such an unusual combination of forenames, I've googled "Beryl Nerissa" and absolutely zilch!

Perhaps we will have more luck with his sister, Jane, although I imagine that tracking her down will present more of a challenge ...!

Best wishes

Gill

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Additional information about Jane McLeod
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 February 16 18:43 GMT (UK) »
While looking through old photographs this afternoon, we came across a note saying that Jane McLeod "married a professional golfer and died".

That would seem to suggest that she didn't have children either and we will be looking for a different surname on the death certificate.