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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 07 February 16 22:30 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 07 February 16 23:02 GMT (UK) »

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    Northchurch = The Crooked Billet, George formerly the Swan, Grey Mare, White Horse
 
from Victuallers Recognisances
 
    Northchurch = The George formerly the Swan
 
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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 07 February 16 23:06 GMT (UK) »

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http://www.georgeanddragonnorthchurch.co.uk/

The George and Dragon | 87 High Street | Northchurch  | Berkhamsted | HP4 3QL



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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 07 February 16 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: [Ray] on Sunday 07 February 16 23:06 GMT (UK)

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http://www.georgeanddragonnorthchurch.co.uk/

The George and Dragon | 87 High Street | Northchurch  | Berkhamsted | HP4 3QL

Were there two "Swans"?  The following link shows John Edward Lane of Swan (Commercial), High Street, Berkhamsted.  He was a brewer as well as a retailer.  Also shown on the link is William Turton, Dugwell (sic), Northchurch who was the Publican and Grocer at the Swan, Dudswell in 1851.

 http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/places/places-b/berkhamsted/berkhamsted-inns-1854.htm

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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 February 16 00:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi yes it would appear at one time there were two "Swans" in 1861 census, one in Great Berkhampstead, High Street with John Ed Lane 52 and William Turton in Dudswell.
Census Ref for John Ed Lane RG09/841/59/1
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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 February 16 00:24 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 February 16 08:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The detail in Sc00p's link says that it closed in 1848 because "until 1848 refused licence when the landlord was convicted of receiving stolen barley"

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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #16 on: Monday 08 February 16 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: [Ray] on Monday 08 February 16 08:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

The detail in Sc00p's link says that it closed in 1848 because "until 1848 refused licence when the landlord was convicted of receiving stolen barley"

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1851 England Census:  HO107/ 1716/ 149/ Page: 28

Described as Dudswell, "Swan".   William Turton, Publican & Grocer.

1861 England Census:  RG9/841/52 p 32;

Described as "Swan Inn".  William Turton, Beerhouse Keeper.  Location: Dudswell.

Perhaps William Turton had his licence returned.

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Re: Swan Public House
« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 February 16 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Coventry Standard 30 August 1850. 

DIED:  On 22nd., inst at Dudswell, Herts, Ann, wife of Mr William Turton, of the "Swan Inn", aged 42.
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