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King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« on: Wednesday 10 February 16 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I'm new to Rootschat and to genealogy so please be patient!  I'm tracing my family tree on my father Alexander Roy King's side and have got various bits of information from Scotland's People - my grandfather was William Dick King, one of 9 children I think - his father was Alexander King (married to Mary McDonald Dick), who I believe died in 1897 (although it could be 1911, I'm a little confused by the records). They lived in Windmillhill Street. Alexander's father was Thomas King, a brick maker, and I think there were generations of quarry masters/masons.  I'm slowly working my way through all the records but just wondered if anyone out there knows anything about any of my family? Or has anyone got any useful tips about how to proceed?  Thanks!

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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sam,

If you can post (in order) a summary of family names, wives names (with maiden names), birth & marriage dates, places & occupations with all the info you have found so far including census records this will help immensely.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 23:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

I was just about to post the same request - here is the 1891 entry for the family - address Windmill House Dalziel Motherwell.  All b Motherwell except where shown otherwise


Alexander King   43 Quarrymaster
Mary 42 b Cleland 
Thomas  20 b Glasgow
Margaret  18   ditto
James 15
Alexander  13
John     9
Robert  7
Charlotte  6
William 4
Allan  1
Barbara Penman   18 servant b Airdrie
Dalziel ED 12 Page 9 Line 22

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQFS-HZ2
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTXH-FW5
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ8C-M47
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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 23:22 GMT (UK) »
In 1901 at 93 Windmill St - the following King children are shown as the sons/daughter of James & Lucy Anderson.  You would need to view the original image to see if an error has been made

Alexander/John/Robert/Charlotte (shown as Lottie)/ William & Allan 

Dalziel ED 25 Page 20 Line 13
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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I have lots of information on the King family, I am in London tonight but will be back in Motherwell tomorrow and will be in touch.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.

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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Windmillhill Street.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.

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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 February 16 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much everyone, I will gather all my scraps of paper and print-outs together and form a summary.

Hi, I have lots of information on the King family, I am in London tonight but will be back in Motherwell tomorrow and will be in touch.
Lodger, how exciting! I look forward to picking your brains when you have a spare moment (no rush!). Thank you.

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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 February 16 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Marriage for Alexander King & Mary Dick
08 Aug 1870, Shotts, Lanarkshire

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT1D-3QT

The marriage on SP will give ages, name both sets of parents, occupations, mothers maiden names, witnesses & addresses at time of marriage.

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: King Family, Motherwell - James, Thomas, Alexander, William Dick
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 February 16 23:31 GMT (UK) »
So I have gathered bits together and this is what I have - newest first:

My father, Alexander Roy King
b 19-Aug-1931

William Dick King (my grandfather)
b 12-Jan-1887 Windmillhill House
m Ann Gregson Jones 06-May-1929 at Hope St Glasgow in presence of Thomas King (102 New City Road, Glasgow) & Elizabeth Jones. (24 Baird ? Glasgow) William residing at Janetta Place, Orchard St, Motherwell.
Father listed as Alexander King, Quarrymaster, mother Mary King nee McDonald Dick (both deceased)
d 28-Aug-1950 1301 Govan Road (cardiac failure)

Alexander King, Quarry Master
b ?
m Mary Dick (father James Dick) 08-Aug-1870 Marriage certificate unclear but says father Thomas King, Builder, mother Charlotte King nee Snell (? unclear)
d ?
Only death certificate I could find is for 01-Oct-1911 but says he was a hammerman & married to Ann someone, so I donít think itís the right Alexander

1891 census, Windmillhill House:
Alexander King, Head of house
Mary, wife
Children:
Thomas, 20 - Clerk
Margaret, 18
James, 15 - Clerk
Alexander, 13 - Scholar
John, 9
Robert, 7
Charlotte, 6
William, 4
Allan, 1
Barbara Penmar, 18 - servant

Thomas King, Brick builder
B ?
M Charlotte Snell (mother listed on Alexanderís marriage certificate, but death certificate says widower of Elizabeth Snell)
d  12-May-1885, 4 Brighton Terrace, Rothesay. Cirrhosis of liver.  Lists father as James King, Contractor, & mother Catherine Clarke (both deceased). Informant Henry John King (son), Railway Hotel, Shotts.

That's as far as I have - I've downloaded valuation rolls from 1885 for Alexander King in Windmillhill Street which I'm looking at but confuses me a little, and think I have will or testament for Thomas King & Alexander King - I think these are correct because they name children who seem to fit in, but I haven't yet had a chance to look at them properly and work out if the dates are right.  I'd like to do searches for Windmillhill Street  in valuation rolls or censuses but can't seem to do that on Scotland's People and can't find Alexander King or William King in 1901 or 1911, so I'm feeling a bit stuck.  My dad is now 84 and has dementia but he's really interested in this so I'm trying to find out as much as I can to keep him engaged.

Is there a good program to enter your family tree?  I've tried to put information I have in Word and Excel but it doesn't really work and all these bits of paper are confusing me.

If anyone is researching the Kings, I am trying to attach the documents I have to save you money searching, but it won't let me post it if I do - any help how to do this?!

I really appreciate everyone's answers - I'm learning by the day, thank you!